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Roberto (ruprect@cats.ucsc.edu)
Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:58:27 -0600

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From: edg@tt740 (Ed Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: revive black mexican militancy
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 15:53:06 GMT
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Hello there Ted.....

Perhaps my first mail did not get to you. This is why Im sending you this
message thru a Reply.

As I explained in the other message, my Great Aunt and my Grandmother are
both PAVON, daughters of Nabor Pavon, who was a member of the family of
Jose' Mari'a Morelos y Pavon. Yet, in all my talks with my grandmother and
my aunt, no mention of your claim (that Jose' Mari'a Morelos y Pavon was part
Afro) was ever made.

I urge you to tell me what your sources are. How do you base your claim that
Jose' Mari'a Morelos y Pavon was part black? If you can provide some sources
about this claim, I want to know about this. If you cannnot provide these
sources, I would ask you to please abstain from making references about my granmother's ancestor until you are able to substain your claims.

As I told you in the other message, I have noticed some family resemblances
between a painting of Jose' Mari'a Morelos y Pavon made at the time and
one of my uncles. In all honesty, Jose' Mari'a did not look very dark in that painting.

Dont get me wrong. I have some great friends who are black and I have nothing
against black people. I do, however, want to see your claims substantiated
by some documentation, specially if you talk about Morelos. Its just a bit
too close to home.

I'm willing to discuss this openly or privately or on the phone, or in person.
I'm allways open to frank, peaceful dialog.

Ed Gonzalez
edg@comm.mot.com
Software Engineering
Radio Network Solutions Group
Motorola, Inc. - LMPS
Schaumburg, Illinos

In article <3kqjfr$a7h@agate.berkeley.edu>, fslnted@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ted Vincent) writes:
>
> Guerrero, Morelos, Juan Alvarez, the Flores Magon brothers, these and
> other Mexican heros were part AFrican. The whites have always been
> fearful, not only of indigenous Mexico, but also, Black Mexico. We
> should revive the honorable past of Black Mexico.
.............
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