-DATE- 19590219 -YEAR- 1959 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- INTERVIEW -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- APPEARANCE OF CASTRO BEFORE THE PRESS -PLACE- CUBA -SOURCE- CMQ TV PROGRAM -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19590219 -TEXT- EXCERPTS FROM THE APPEARANCE OF FIDEL CASTRO BEFORE THE PRESS (CMQ TELEVISION PROGRAM) ON FEBRUARY 19, 1959 Views on Organization of American States Wanguemert: The Government, the Cuban Government, the Government of the Revolution through some of its spokesmen some of the most distinguished ones, has offered to bring before the OAS the problem of the dictatorships that violate the Charter of Human Rights in America. How far do you believe Dr. Castro that Cuba should go on this, most noble step? Dr. Castro: Well, now, look here. If you ask me how far Cuba can go, how far Cuba should go in that matter, I would say that it should go as far as possible. During the visit I made to the Congress of Venezuela, I brought up that matter, that the expulsion of Trujillo and Somoza and the other dictator Stroessner of Paraguay should be demanded of the OAS. I should add that I honestly have no faith in the OAS. I look upon it like that organ, like that Congress that functioned here. It decides nothing, the whole thing is a lie, it is all fiction, it fundamentally does not fill any role, it has perhaps intervened in some little wars as the solver of some problems but it really has not rendered any service to the people, to the countries of America. Even on some occasions the democratic governments that have been in the majority have acted lukewarm. It has many men of great democratic fame but generally there has been lukewarm action by the democrats of America, of Latin America. The OAS has not fulfilled its destiny. I look on the proposals with a certain skepticism, I fear that there is more air than substance in these matters; if the countries of Latin America are to follow a true democratic line, Cuba will be in the forefront in that petition, because that is our logical position. Why? Because life in exile is a very recent experience of ours, the sacrifices we had to make are very recent, because we have waged war alone, even because when we were preparing the Revolution we were persecuted by the police and were in jail even 30 or 40 days that I recall; I remember that my comrades were tortured by foreign police, that we had to get out, that one-half our arms had been taken away from us and that we were cruelly persecuted. He who remembers all of that must feel very close to the people of America that are still in exile. They must feel a very great sympathy and I hereby proclaim it, without reservation, toward the persecuted democrats who still exist in Latin America, and moreover I say they can count on all our sympathy and all our support because we are not now going to act lukewarmly and hypocritically because I feel in solidarity with all the politically persecuted people of the Continent, those persecuted by the dictatorship of Trujillo, those persecuted by Somoza and by all dictatorships. So I am not going to adopt half way measures. Those in exile can count on all our sympathy, our solidarity and our aid in the OAS and wherever necessary, and in speaking thus I am merely expressing the feelings of the Cuban people and if we here appeal for volunteers to overthrow the tyrannies (interrupted by applause). However, let no one be frightened because of these words as these are not times for anyone to be frightened. So I am going to say, in order that no one may say that I am bringing about panic: we must be prepared for everything. The only thing that we should fear is fear itself. Maso: Do you believe, Dr. Castro, that as a first step there should be a break in diplomatic relations with those countries? Castro: Courtesy does not diminish courage, right? We would sour all the rest, for example--all the rest, if we said: We're going to break off relations here, and what does that lead to? What does that do? Maso: Well, there's the case of Venezuela, where i understand that the Trujillo dictatorship is cutting off the water, the electricity, because of the inside oppression they have there, and doesn't that mean that relations aren't worth anything, that they don't operate? Castro: In that case that's already a case of direct aggression, isn't it? I don't give much importance to the problem of relations, because that doesn't solve anything, those are a kind of posturing, I would say, in which we break off relations for the applause of the galleries. Sending a dollar so a Dominican exile can eat does more then breaking off relations. (Confused interruptions, and Castro continues): To finish the question of stands. I believe that the problem of relations has no particular importance, that's my opinion. Now, sure, if a joint action is feared, that has importance. If a bloc of democratic countries says: Let's break relations with Trujillo, Somoza and Company. Sure, that has teeth (applause), and it has even more importance if they aid those immigrants who are fighting against the dictatorship of Trujillo. But, if they just break relations, Trujillo goes right along. Suppose we break off relations here. It doesn't make a bit of difference to him, because actually over there, so long as he isn't bothered, it's all the same to him to have relations or not have relations. Trujillo has shown himself to be so thick skinned that none of those things bother him. So in connection with the breaking off of relations, I say: Join it with aid to the immigrants, so they can fight there. Recognition of a dominican government in exile, or of the first dominican who rebels in Santo Domingo or in Nicaragua or in any of those other countries, and those measures which go beyond simple words, beyond stage posturings, beyond newspaper headlines--well, I must say I am more partial to them than to mere words. Maso: And what about the other? Castro: The other is effective aid, recognizing a government (laughter)--that means more effective aid--when there is an uprising, for example suppose they had recognized us when we rose up in the Sierra Maestra (ED -- the foregoing is equally incomprehensible in the original Spanish). Now, who did recognize us? No one! And now, we will recognize the very first person who rises up, for sure, and right now. And if in addition they are up in arms and can hand on, they can count on all our sympathy (applause). Wanguemert: Dr. Castro, turning back to the Dominican Republic, there are reports that the Government of the Dominican Republic is again sending to Cuba its elegant Ambassador, Mr. Porfirio Rubirosa. Do you believe that that trip has any relation with the requests for extradition made by Cuba? Do you believe that the possibility exists that the Government of the Dominican Republic would agree to the extradition of any of the fugitives that at this moment are guests of Santo Domingo? Castro: Well, I think Trujillo is capable of anything, even of surrendering Batista, see? If he wants to turn him over, we will receive him here--receive him very well. How, if you were to ask me whether in exchange for Batista we were prepared to alter our stand concerning Trujillo, I would tell you no, not for one Batista nor for a thousand Batistas. That is flat and final. (Applause) -END-