-DATE- 19600930 -YEAR- 1960 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- INTERVIEW -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- CASTRO SPEAKS ON 'MEET THE PRESS' PROGRAM -PLACE- HAVANA -SOURCE- HAVANA, CMP TELEVISION -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19600930 -TEXT- CASTRO SPEAKS ON 'MEET THE PRESS' PROGRAM Havana, CMP Television Network, Sept. 30, 1960, 0545 GMT--F (Editor's Note: While the "Ante la Prensa" program was in progress, Fidel Castro suddenly appeared on the program and joined in the discussion) (Summary of Fidel Castro's contribution) The U.S. Embassy request that the U.S. citizens living in Cuba leave the country is an advice and not an order and it is possible that many U.S. citizens will not leave Cuba because they know that they have been treated respectfully. The thing is this: If the U.S. citizens come here to set up radios and listening devices to obtain information--open espionage--certainly these gentlemen can not stay here. I remember that on one occasion we explained that our nationalization laws would not affect the individual North Americans. It is not our intention to interfere with the North Americans having a modest amount of property here. We respect the North Americans living here and this is the reason we condemn the attitude of the North Americans toward the Cubans living in the United States. Certainly, if the North Americans come to spy, then they will be imprisoned and even be shot. We can not permit espionage in our country. Officials of the U.S. Embassy have been caught conspiring here and we have proof of it. We have Hemingway here, for instance. What problems can Hemingway have with us? We are visited by many distinguished North Americans and they never have any trouble with us. The North Americans who come as tourists or who reside here will have no trouble with our revolution, even those who own a small property will not be bothered. This (U.S. Embassy warning?) is another insidious campaign by means of which imperialism is trying to aggravate the relations between the two countries. The egoism and the discrimination that prevail in the United States do not exist here. The Cubans go to New York to seek work, while the North Americans who live here do so because they like it here. The imperialists are hysterical and they can not free themselves of that feeling. They have created it; it is like an epidemic which they can not control. They can not be convinced that they have to face realities. They are the victims of the hysteria they have been creating. They have done nothing else but commit errors with us with completely negative results for them. For instance, they confined us to Manhattan Island, they refused us a hotel, and so forth. Naturally, the world is anxious to know what kind of country the United States is and what kind of people are the Cubans to have produced such hysteria in the heart of the empire. The blows against the Cubans by the police; driving their horses against the crowd--it reminded me of Hitler's gestapo. This is the reactionary process that is leading that system toward fascism. (Castro refers to UPI item saying that the U.S. Government will close the Nicaro Nickel Plant in Cuba because of the confiscatory taxes imposed on it.) The U.S. Government sent a note to our Labor Ministry informing him that it was thinking of closing down the nickel plant within 30 days of the communications. They have been exporting nickel without paying any taxes on it. In order not to paralyze the plant, we told them that we were disposed either to discuss the purchase of the plant, or to find some formula to solve the problem. We were discussing the matter with them. If the material is so strategic and if they need it so badly, let them pay the tax, which is a matter of 25 percent of the value of the export. They spend more than a million dollars in espionage; they spend more than 40 billion dollars in arms. Yet here they are exploiting our nickel mine and they will not pay anything for it. They say that a 25-percent tax is confiscatory. If they do not want to discuss the matter, if they do not want to pay the tax; if they wish to shut down the plant, well, let them do so. We wish to say to the Nicaro workers not to worry. We also wish to tell them to careful. We want no sabotage; we want no damage to the machinery; we want no stealing of equipment. the workers must be careful that nothing happens to the plant. At any rate, today's note (from the U.S. Government?) said they were disposed to continue the discussions. Well, if they are, we are, too. Nickel is very important to the world. The Canadians also have nickel mines and now the Canadians are going to control the nickel market. We have good relations with the Canadians. We are ready to discuss the Nicaro matter with the United States--we are also a nickel power (words indistinct). And in the United Nations the world learned that Cuban problems are the problems of the world. A great battle for peace and disarmament is being wage in the United Nations. All the people of the world are worried about peace because a war would mean an atomic war. The underdeveloped countries know that as long as the arms race is on, there is less possibility for thee development of their countries. The moment that Eisenhower should become interested or speak about a program of economic development in the underdeveloped countries, he would be in conflict with the monopolies which need these countries in order to invest their money in them. This is their philosophy; money in the American society means power. The money they get from exploiting people, they invest wherever they can find the cheapest labor or wherever they can earn the most profit. The U.S. monopolies have been taking over the entire economic resources of the nation for years now. Eisenhower can not divorce himself from the monopolies. The wish of the underdeveloped countries to be helped by the highly developed countries can never be achieved as long as the latter spend 100 billion dollars in arms each year. If, say, the U.S. armament program could be reduced by only 10 percent, the U.S. people would benefit from it because they would have to pay less taxes. Disarmament would suit the USSR very well because it means that is could immediately raise the standard of living of its people and it could also give more help to the underdeveloped countries. This is why the underdeveloped countries want disarmament. This there opportunity. The imperialist countries do not want disarmament. Eisenhower never spoke about it. He spoke about control, outer space, and so forth, but he said nothing about disarmament. He said nothing about helping the underdeveloped countries. He said nothing about the colonies. The U.S. position in the United States is weak because it has no arguments; it can defend nothing there. If it has no arguments, it has no reasons and it stands naked there. It has a mechanical majority simply by controlling the delegations. The U.S. delegation would sit there in the United Nations and watch what the other delegations did; maybe it would not applaud a speaker, but it watched to see if the delegations they control did applaud. It is a system of terror. The Government of the United States can not side with anyone (decent?). It has to be on the side of Franco, Chiang Kai-shek, the German and Japanese militarists, in short, on the side of the most reactionary, exploiting, immoral, thieving people of the world. (Opinion of Khrushchev) My impression is that he is a very humane, pleasant, and respectful man. I am sure that if Khrushchev spent six months in the United States, he would receive more votes than either Kennedy or Nixon. He has a great sense of humor, and besides, he reasons. Khrushchev is a great grandfather and still is very energetic; he has great confidence in himself. He is simply extraordinary. He is surely coming to Cuba to visit us. He is very sympathetic toward the Cuban revolution. Nkrumah also is coming; Nasir comes next March. Nkrumah may possibly come at the end of this year. (Castro returns to the subject of the Cubans living in New York:) What I saw there reminded me of nazism. The same policemen who beat the Cubans would then sit down to gamble. Gambling is an institution there. They respect no one and nothing. We have a great obligation, a great duty toward the Cubans living there: Their return home so they will be cared for in every way. It is painful for me to see the good Cubans persecuted, while the traitors and murderers are recompensed and protected. The Negroes in the United States constitute the most politically advanced group in the country. It is an oppressed and mistreated group. As a matter of fact, not a single inhabitant of Harlem believes the imperialist propaganda. Moreover, they have great importance because the African countries are becoming more important in the world and any repression against the U.S. Negroes will be condemned by the Afro-Asian countries. We are thinking of presenting a motion in the United Nations against the racial segregation in the United States. (In reference to the U.S. intellectuals supporting Castro:) They are indeed very brave people because they defy the power of the press, money, and repression. They are extraordinary people who act in accordance with the dictate of their conscience. The U.S. people are powerless to act. The two candidates are political cowards and hypocrites. They are incapable of saying the truth. If they make a mistake, they will not correct themselves. Cyrus Easton is a very interesting person. He spoke frankly and in a friendly manner. He said that he and a group of people are coming to Cuba and they are ready to help. He said that the next time we went to the United States he would invite us to visit his home. He has his own opinion on things. They can not call him a communist because he is a millionaire. He is a friend of Khrushchev. There are many extraordinary people in the United States; there are many revolutionary, progressive, and anti-imperialist people among the U.S. intellectuals but they can not express themselves or act because they are suffocated by the deluge of false publicity prevailing in the United States. (Back to Kennedy and Nixon:) They are both young, beardless men. They are ignorant, illiterate, and cowards. They look like two toys of the great vested interests. We may have not swallowed the shark in the United States but we certainly gave him a good bite. (Invasion of Cuba:) I think that the militia is going to have the chance of liquidating every group of counterrevolutionaries that invades us. The (imperialists) are going to make the mistake of embarking the groups that are to invade us. At one time they were thinking of seizing the Isle of Pines but it seems that they have lost interest in it because it is a little difficult to take. There is also the alternative of some country, say Guatemala, provoking us into war. If any of those puppets should declare war on us, well, we shall just reply to them with a "boo." They have been creating an atmosphere of hysteria over the Caimanera Naval Base. We have always made the mistake of underestimating the Cuban people and revolution. They believe that the revolution is incapable, it can not fight. They are going to try it. Those camps that they are organizing in different countries to attack us, do you know what is going to happen. We are well provided with arms, too. We are not interested in their weapons because we shall take them away from them along with their sport jackets. That policy of preparing groups, recruiting mercenaries, arming them, it is just a way of deceiving the mercenaries. They tell them that the marines will (support them), that there will be a provisional government. They deceive them. The only thing that encourages the counterrevolutionary elements is the Yankee support. We must be ready for a long fight and we must act with serenity. We must be prepared now as were when we went to the Sierra. We did not know how long we would have to fight then but we were mentally prepared for anything. (Portion indistinct) We have organized the militia for a frontal battle; we must organize the people for the "underground" war. They must be organized to watch over the "underground" activity of imperialism. We shall have revolutionary vigilance committees on the entire island. Everybody will serve in them: Men, women, and children, especially the children because they are very vigilent. -END-