-DATE- 19620606 -YEAR- 1962 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- INTERVIEW -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- NOUVELLE CRITIQUE REPRODUCED IN REVOLUCION -PLACE- HAVANA -SOURCE- RADIO CENTRO -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19620807 -TEXT- CASTRO INTERVIEW IN NOUVELLE CRITIQUE Havana Radio Centro in Spanish 1800 GMT 6 August 1962--F (Text) The chief editor of NOUVELLE CRITIQUE, Jacques (Arnol?), has published his interview with the prime minister of the Cuban Revolutionary Government, Maj. Fidel Castro, and it has been reproduced in the newspaper REVOLUCION. (Arnol?) asked this question of the supreme commander of our revolution: You have led a revolution. If you were to describe your experiences to intellectuals, what would you say? Castro replied that in the first place, he knows in fact that there are many undesirable intellectual circles. He said that in Europe ideological struggles have always developed well. In Cuba ideological struggles were dormant. The political atmosphere was heavy. There were other problems. As a matter of fact, I am not an intellectual, I am a man of revolutionary action, Castro said. Certainly, there has been a tendency for intellectuals to forget the masses, to place themselves over the masses, or as it were, a tendency to refrain from convincing the masses. In this way, they get to build a world for themselves, an ideal world. Then they discover that this world differs from reality. Fidel added that it seems to him that he will always see difficulties in attaining the union of these two worlds. The life of the revolution has also taught me how difficult it is to combine revolutionary theory with actual practice. It is one of the most difficult things. There is a tendency towards an artificial application of ideas to real life. Frequently we want to suit reality to our theory. (Arnol?) asked Fidel if it is that tendency toward idealism to which one ought to attribute the fact that there has been such long neglect of the problem of norms in agricultural and industrial enterprises and whether the breaking of the law of personal interest could have been considered feasible during the socialist development of the economy. Fidel replied yes, and said that we are actually analyzing this at present. The problem is to find the equilibrium in material stimulus, that is to say, wage rates and norms, the bonuses of moral stimulation. In our revolution moral stimulation is an important matter. You have seen, he said to the newsman, the importance which is afforded the designation of exemplary workers in enterprises. The worker ought to be the hero of society. First, it is necessary to begin by pointing up the dignity of work, the honor of work. Children must be given a communist consciousness with respect to life and it is possible to do so, it is possible to create it. The chief editor of LA NOUVELLE CRITIQUE asked Fidel a question about the literacy drive. Fidel said that only socialism is really interested in the education of the masses and only socialism can unite the human forces to liquidate the secular past. Only socialism can liquidate illiteracy in one year. In addition to all these advantages, Fidel added, our decision was made after considering the benefits which accure to the youths who would teach the illiterates. We wanted to enlist youth in a great task. We knew that these benefits which the teacher would obtain would be equal to those derived by the pupil. This has given a sense of responsibility to girls and boys. It has given them a knowledge of the peasant's life and their everyday tasks. All this has had great repercussion from the point of view of national unity. Regarding the organization of the United Party of the Socialist Revolution, Fidel said in another part of the press review: We are striving to unite the party even closer with the masses. We are going to keep that tradition--the election of members and collective leadership. We are going to have a great Marist-Leninist party. We think that Cuba will be a politically and culturally developed state. We know everything that is happening here is important, both our errors and our successes. All this will be useful for the Latin American peoples. A revolution is not an easy thing. It is easy in books. It is more difficult in reality. -END-