-DATE- 19840105 -YEAR- 1984 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- INTERVIEW -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- SPANISH TELEVISION: CASTRO ON VARIETY OF ISSUES -PLACE- CUBA -SOURCE- MADRID DOMESTIC SVC -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19840109 -TEXT- SPANISH TELEVISION: CASTRO ON VARIETY OF ISSUES LD061824 Madrid Domestic Service in Spanish 2300 GMT 5 Jan 84 [Text] Tonight Television Espanola [TVE] broadcast an interview with Cuban leader Fidel Castro from which we now invite you to listen to some extracts. In the interview Fidel Castro spoke about the influence that the U.S. Government had on the Cuban revolutionary process. [Begin Castro recording] The struggle was unleashed above all against the United States. The first companies we expropriated were those that were sabotaging the economy because they were creating serious conflicts, and we did so by means of a nationalization law. What you could say is that the hostility of the United States accelerated the process, and even drove the process on, but it did not determine the direction of our revolution, since our revolution would have inexorably moved toward socialism. Inexorably we considered ourselves to be Marxist-Leninists. We based our ideology on Marxist-Leninist principles and intended to carry out a socialist revolution. [end recording] Fidel Castro also spoke about the idea linked to the Cuban revolution concerning the creation of a new type of man, a different type of man. [Begin Castro recording] One we, the Cubans, have more young people and more people willing to continue and carry out a mission, however difficult or dangerous in any part of the world, more people than they have in the Peace Corps and the missionaries of all the religious orders put together -- we alone have more people. Thus, if we need 50,000 people, we have them. If we need 300,000 young people willing to carry out a mission of any kind, we have them. I ask you, could the U.S. Peace Corps, the Catholic Church -- which I respect -- and the Protestant churches -- which I also respect -- together mobilize 300,000 missionaries? At present in the public health field, we hold first place among all the countries of the Third World and are above some developed countries. In 15 or 16 years' time, we shall hold first place in the world above the United States, Britain, Sweden, et cetera. [end recording] In his statements to TVE, Fidel Castro rejected the so-called personality cult. [Begin Castro recording] What would the country be like without Fidel Castro? Well, I and all my comrades in the party leadership would be really very ashamed if we now thought of any of us as indispensable. There was a time when we were indispensible, (?when we were living in a period when our ideas were taking root), when we were a group in the Sierra Maestra during the first years of the revolution, but it is not a question of leader worship or a personality cult. In this country you will not see portraits of Fidel Castro in the streets, or streets named after Fidel Castro, or any statue -- nothing of this sort, because one of the first laws passed by the revolution was to prohibit this. You will not see any manifestation of a personality cult in this country. We have created institutions of collective leadership that really do function. [end recording] Fidel Castro also spoke about Spain's membership in NATO. [Begin Castro recording] The more Spain commits itself to Europe and the more it feels European the more we are affected. A majority of Spaniards want to join the EEC. We cannot oppose or criticize the fact that Spain, for economic reasons, wants to share the benefits of the EEC, but that could, in some respects, be harmful to us. We shall have to see what the rules governing trade relations between Spain and Cuba, and Spain and Latin America are after Spain joins the EEC, because we can opt out as well, though we are not interested in doing so. The more Spain stays away from military blocs -- and I say this with the utmost clarity -- the better relations would be between Spain and Latin America and the Third World. I say this without wanting to interfere. I am simply defending my views, and I was once greatly criticized for this -- even the Spanish communists criticized me. [end recording] We shall now hear Fidel Castro talking about relations between Cuba and Spain. [Begin Castro recording] The revolution began. A struggle began against neo-colonialism. Franco ruled in Spain, and we were really very critical of Franco. However, in spite of our criticism and our ideological differences with the regime, the Spanish Government stood firm and maintained its economic and diplomatic relations with Cuba -- this must be recognized. When the transition took place in Spain, relations improved, and they were no longer merely formal diplomatic and economic relations. Increased contacts of a political nature took place, more direct contacts with the government, contacts which had not previously existed, and for the first time, we saw the visit by a head of state, or rather of government, because the head of state is the king. We have invited the king, and I do want to emphasize that we would like him to visit us. We knew Felipe [Gonzalez Marquez] as the leader of the Socialist Party and the opposition. He visited Cuba with Socialist delegations. He has come more than once to our country, either for a visit or in transit to Panama, and I have met him at the airport and other places, in Nicaragua for instance. We have had many contacts, good personal relations, and there is, of course, a closer political affinity now with the new Spanish Government. With the PSOE [Spanish Socialist Workers' Party], we do not have identical points of view, identical concepts, but as a party of the left, we have good relations, close relations. [end recording] -END-