-DATE- 19850117 -YEAR- 1985 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- SPEECH -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- CASTOR DELIVERS SPEECH AT ECONOMIC MEETING -PLACE- HAVANA'S PALACE OF CONVENTIONS -SOURCE- HAVANA TELEVISION SVC -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19850123 -TEXT- CASTRO DELIVERS SPEECH AT ECONOMIC MEETING FL170348 Havana Television Service in Spanish 0130 GMT 17 Jan 85 [Speech by President Fidel Castro at a party meeting on economic efficiency, held at Havana's Palace of Conventions on 15 January -- recorded] [Text] Comrades: As Manolo Ortega said, and he said it very well: I am going to say a few brief words. I believe that in recent days, I have spoken quite a bit, and I have given quite a lot of work to the newspapers and television, to the party members, to the students, to the study groups, [laughter] to the party nucleus, and I do not want to give them more work, especially in the middle of January, when we have to intensify our efforts to put into practice everything we have agreed upon. This activity concerning economic efficiency units, of the budgeted units, seems to me to have great importance. I recall well that since we agreed upon a system of management and planning of the economy, I was always very concerned about the idea of setting up control mechanisms and mechanisms for efficiency in productive activities, which was very important. Nevertheless there were hardly any mechanisms that could provide control and efficiency in savings and budgeted activities. And I thought, we can be successful in this economic effort, which is related to productive activities and all that we earn or save on the one hand, we waste, we turn around and squander on budgeted activities. It is for that reason and in appreciation of the result of the national meeting on productive activities, which took place last year, that I proposed, following the same criteria, that a meeting be organized to deal with budgeted activities, to analyze, consider, and study what we were doing, how we were doing it, and what problems we were having, and how we could overcome them. It is for that reason that this meeting is taking place. It has been important since that time, but if we take into account the enormous effort, or should I say the revolution, that has taken place in the last 2 months, and especially during the month of December regarding our concepts of how we should work, in what way, in what direction, in regard to the economy, then this meeting becomes even more important because it has been held at the opportune time. That is, this meeting has taken place at the most opportune time. There was an enormous advance during the year 1984 in the area of defense. During the year 1985, we must continue to consolidate this advance. But at the same time, we must put in practice everything we have agreed upon. Of course, the best fruits of these ideas and of these agreements will be seen in 1986, especially in things related to the preparation of the budget. Many of these fruits could be attained this year if we completed everything in the area of controlling expenses, and overcame many of the problems that were identified there. And certainly there is a series of points of reference that have been placed along the way in this process. Very important. I, unfortunately, was not able to be present, as I would like to have been, for all of this national meeting because of a series of obligations during the past few days. Therefore, I asked Comrade Machadito [Jose Ramon Machado Ventura] to make the concluding, speech. I promised him that I would say a few words. They have already sent me some materials and they also sent me some yesterday about the discussions that went on in the committees. I propose to reread shortly the papers I have seen and to read the ones I have not seen. That is, although I think the reports or recommendations as you call them -- I call them reports -- deal with things we have to put into practice. I intend to read them and study them well because at first glance, what can we do with such a large quantity of material? There is a large quantity of interesting and important things. Many of them seem repetitious on controls -- the problems of diet, for example, appears in almost all areas, in education, in health, in sports, in culture. The lack of norms for spending, uniform norms, also comes out in almost all the discussions. Carelessness or deficiencies with equipment in repairs, and so on, and problems related to expenses for materials, of payrolls and contracts also are mentioned. For instance, the well-known Saturday, when we exchange one day for another. Supposedly we had made advances, by saving transportation and resources, and it really should be that way. But, apparently many people believe in and many managers permit a system where one Saturday is free and the next one almost free. We know that the party made a study of the free Saturdays and visited many places, production and service centers, and studied how many people were unjustifiably absent. In this way they could analyze how many justified absences there were, which were really justified, without overlooking the number and percent of absences. There was a great variety of causes for the absences but there were also those that were working. When they studied their data, much of it did not have any content, many were doing something else, or talking about that problem. It was an interesting study. It was done in a part of Havana in the production and services sector. We cannot allow this type of thing. It is a matter of morals, of revolutionary dignity, of discipline, and the basic concept of meeting our responsibilities. It is clear that if this was done on a Thursday there would not be such a high absence rate, but there would be low productivity, loss of time, and many other problems which are in no way related to free Saturdays, but have to do with method, concept, custom, and practice; which I have been thinking about and which must be dealt with more effectively. As I said at the end of the National Assembly of People's Government [ANPP] meeting, although the main stress was on conserving fuels and raw materials, I also mentioned the problem of human resources. I said it was not very urgent, that the other problem had priority -- matters of investment, priorities, and all that we were going to do in this area, which could be put immediately into practice. But, this area of human resources was a matter of years. We had to do it, we did not want to leave anyone without a job. It is not a matter that as of now we go in a precipitated way to find anyone left over in any place, because I believe that many people could be found. We are not interested in doing that. I want to do this over a period of time, to optimize, rationalize, and use human resources in the proper manner. You comrades and organs have made several studies and have come out with some conclusions. For example, there was a large amount of data, supposedly useful and necessary data, but that was hardly ever used, and when it was going to be used, it could not be found. The data was looked for throughout a building and could not be found, even though there were a number of people involved in this activity. I am convinced that we underutilize human resources, we waste them, and this is a basic resource. This is what produces the riches in the country and performs all the services within it. This resource is perhaps more important than money. It is more important than materials, because without work there isn't any money, or materials, or production, or anything. We have wasted this resource a little. In a certain way this influence came about when the revolution triumphed because there were large numbers of unemployed in the country, hundreds of thousands; it was a great pressure. I remember in the beginning there was great pressure from the people for employment. Until there came a time when there was a shortage of people in many activities. Although there was a lack of workers due to a good measure to workers not being used in the right way. we had made an error by using incorrect methods, which we have studied on other occasions. For example, the same pay was given to a laborer who carried 2 tons as the one who carried 10. There were always many workers, but not a maximum effort under that salary system. Many carried more than 10 tons because of dignity or prestige, but it just takes a small group, even a minority, who are not motivated by that same interest, enthusiasm, or sense of responsibility, and the result was that there were not enough men to load and unload the ships. In the same way, there were not enough tractors, to prepare all the land which needed tractors. There were not enough trucks or truck drivers. This brought about large expenses. The necessary men were assigned to ports, and tractors, trucks, and so on. This was added to a sugarcane productivity increase which, by the way, was the only area where this form of pay was not applied. There, payment was based on amount of arrobas cut. But with mechanization, a better organization and a considerable reduction of the labor force used in harvest activities become a reality. For example, if in 1970, 350,000 sugarcane cutters were needed -- this is how many were needed any year for a 6 million-ton harvest -- and Camaguey alone needed 70,000 or 80,000 cutters, if I recall correctly, when it was a province before it became an administrative political organization. Tens of thousands of workers from the entire country had to go to Camaguey. From Havana's industries, students, soldiers from the Labor Youth army...[sentence incomplete] They are getting to the point now that province can take care of the harvest with its own resources. In other words, a reduction from 350,000 to less than 80,000 has been effected. It has almost been reduced, because I say 80,000 but it is a little less. The amount of sugarcane cutters used in the harvest has been reduced by almost 20 percent. The mechanization level and productivity attained in that activity is less than 80,000 for the 8-million-ton sugar harvest. This had freed almost 270,000 cane cutters. The living and working conditions of those doing that task had to be improved. Those recording the highest productivity were used, giving them a higher income, because later there appeared the branch coefficient [coeficiente ramal] in the sugar industry, which we created because, logically, that production has a very important place in the country. These areas were the ones which gave us the most headaches. All that in the past was easy, because it organized itself without our providing transportation, shelter, dining rooms, because the cane cutters used to take their lunch bag consisting of a piece of bread and guava. They carried room temperature water, it was not cold. They did not have special shoes to cut cane which protected them from accidents, or special clothing, which we have provided in the past few years. At that time none of that existed. Now, imagine dining rooms for 350,000 cane cutters as well as transportation, clothing, and boots for 350,000, and of much better quality. It freed, as I said, around 270,000 cane cutters who are working in other areas of agriculture, construction, or industry, That even made it possible for us to agree to a very old demand of the sugarcane workers, which is the creation of the fourth brigade. or shift, because when the harvest began they had no time for rest. They did not have Saturdays nor Sundays off either, and the harvest lasted longer. It began in November and ended in May. That meant using more workers in industries. We did something, we saved workers from here and eased the working conditions of the sugar industry workers. There were 10,000 or 12,000, I do not remember the exact amount, a great amount. A fourth brigade or shift means a fourth more workers. The number of management workers who worked during the day need not be increased much. But they were doing good, in other words, they were facilitating the rest for all cane workers which they did not have during the harvest. The work force was increased in that way, the agroindustrial complexes were created, and a larger work force was available. Everything possible was done to attain stability in the sugar industry. We are trying to have workers capable of working all year long on one or another machine, making repairs, in construction. The capitalism principle is not applied, that is when the harvest finishes, 60 or 40 percent of the workers are laid off. Some of the workers are under contract, but it is a percentage which does not affect the stability of the work force. When this occurs, when this is worked out like this, the importance of the industry is taken into consideration by making a good evaluation of that force, because it can be improved, can improve its evaluation. Something useful is being done. That work force is not wasted. It is a different problem than the one I was referring to when I was talking about the waste of human resources. There are also other activities which appear to be wastefulness and are not so. Let me give you some examples in educational activities. At one point it appeared we had the right amount of teachers. I told the ministry: Now you should create a reserve of teachers. The objective of that reserve of teachers was not to have more teachers than needed, not to reduce the work teachers were doing; it had another objective. It was to allow the possibility of improving teachers. When the new primary and secondary schools were built, even at a time coinciding with the demographic explosion when the number of school-age children increased extraordinarily, it was necessary to utilize other workers as teachers. This was due to delays in the training of teachers because of some too rigid and dogmatic ideas we had. It was my idea, faced with the problem of the first years of the revolution when there were 10,000 unemployed teachers, we could not get teachers to go to the mountains and countryside. We had to train teachers in the countryside and mountains. We made an effort in that direction. At the beginning, virtually thousands began training and thousands graduated. We had two schools, the one in Minas del Frio part of the time, and the one which today is the City of Pioneers. Of course, before they were smaller but thousands were studying there. Of course, before it was smaller but there were thousands of students. It took us a while to achieve the necessary pace; we could not satisfy the needs of education. It was impossible. It became necessary to give up that idea, apparently good, which in reality could not solve the problem. When we realized that, we decided to create the schools for primary schoolteachers in practically every province. Many times it happens that something is solved one way. However, no matter how good the intentions, it is not the adequate way and there are others available. At the beginning, our situation with the youth was not the same as 8 or 10 years later. The awareness, the political level as well as the educational level of the youth, had improved. During the first few years, there were not many sixth grade graduates. Then we went through the phase when the graduates from pre-university schools were few. There was a year, I cannot remember if it was in 1962 or 1963, when the graduates from preuniversity schools totaled 1,500, perhaps less than 1,000 in a year. In reality, as a result of initial efforts, the literacy drive, classrooms, and others continued to produce changes in our youth. The source for selecting youths to send to teacher training schools was growing. We applied the formula of schools per province -- it was not a case of just schools for the Republic's capital, not one or another extreme. Thus, we were able to solve the problem of the teachers. But by 1970, only 30 percent of the professors had degrees, and 70 percent were plain citizens who volunteered to teach because they had a high level of education, or because they were students, or workers, or members of mass organizations, or members of the Federation of Cuban Women, or members of the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution. Every year we used to recruit students for teacher training schools. They were taught education methodology, in a short training course, and after that they began teaching. Only 30 percent of all professors bad degrees. We continued to advance and now we have reached the level of 100 percent of primary schoolteachers having degrees. At the secondary school level, not all professors have degrees. We continue to train teachers. Of those who began teaching in the primary schools following the triumph of the revolution and until very recently, many had a sixth grade education and they trained for 5 years. I believe it was 5 years training as teachers. It was a very low level of education of very young people. As soon as we were able -- thanks to the great number of schools, hundreds of basic secondary schools that we built -- we selected the teachers from ninth grade students. The level of education was raised by 3 years. We had to improve those teachers through different means. The Education Ministry has developed great plans for teachers. I believe no where in the world are there programs for teachers as ambitious as the ones we have in Cuba. That is a certainty. Improvement courses for some who finished sixth grade, other courses for others, improvement courses for those without degrees... [rephrases] Many of those teachers having degrees today were among those who entered the field of education voluntarily, or those who attended courses in education methodology and later continued to study. The same effort was made with secondary-level professors. The pedagogic detachment was made up of ninth-grade students. As soon as we were able to do it, we replaced them with pre-university students, the 12th grade. Those replaced by the 12th graders continued to be trained by attending university courses over a period of years -- we have attended many graduations of part-time students -- and they returned to teaching after getting a certificate. After that, they had to study 2 more years. Many times I ran into the same students twice, in two graduations. When they finished training as teachers, and later on after completing other studies, they graduated. All three types of teachers would come together, those who entered from ninth grade, those who had graduated-and entered from ninth grade, and those who entered from pre-university school. Those graduations included three categories. In my judgment, the most important thing, the most spectacular thing about this, is the creation of the bachelor's degree for primary education, and the opportunities given to the teachers to improve themselves. Among other things, this program allows for 2 years of study and work, and those who pass the fourth year, because there are 6 years, they are able to study the fifth and sixth year without working. They can then dedicate full time to their studies. There are thousands and thousands who are doing this. I understand that this year the first group will be graduating with masters degrees in primary education. This is a colossal jump for our country that 15 years ago had 70 percent of the certified teachers only graduating from primary school. They bad gone from sixth grade to schools for teachers. Today, all primary schoolteachers have degrees and we are starting to graduate the first ones with master's degrees. And, not only that, but in the course of 15 years, maybe slightly more, all primary schoolteachers have had degrees in primary school education. Calculate for yourselves the level of knowledge that can be attained by these teachers through hard study. It really is wonderful, but why are we able to do this? Because, we began to do this with the reserves of teachers. We were not going to let happen what happened to the capitalists when there was a surplus of teachers. From one moment to another enrollment would decrease and school buildings were empty. These buildings must be used as they are used at present. We must now use these buildings, as they are now being used, to further train teachers. But, it was necessary to have a reserve. If we had not had a reserve, we could not have sent 2,000 teachers to Nicaragua, when they asked us to. I was recently talking about this with a delegation that was visiting us, about the topic of teachers in Nicaragua. And, as I told the Nicaraguans, when did we ever oppose this, about other countries sending teachers? Did we want to have a monopoly of foreign teachers in Nicaragua, out of a sense of pride, vanity, or vainglory? No, it was because no one was sending teachers. Really no one could send teachers, because they did not have any teachers to send. It is unlikely that nations which do not send teachers to their own people, to their own countryside and mountainous areas can send teachers to another country. Only a country that had already fulfilled its own obligation, that had already sent teachers to every corner, could do this, Not only could we send teachers everywhere, but trained teachers with a different type of consciousness. We could send teachers to Nicaragua, Angola, or any other country. Only a country that was able to provide teachers for its own people could do this. The others were not able to do it, But, among the teachers that they did have, they could have sent certified teachers, with some experience, as were our teachers. How many could they have sent? They could not send them to Managua, to live in a costly hotel, but to the mountains. To places where you had to travel by cart for 3 days, and by boat. To live with a family, even if the family lived in a single room with domesticated animals in the house. To eat what the family ate. We even wanted to help teachers, out of fear that they would have health problems. This was impossible because of the quantities of milk and food which would be needed. We found out that it was not the solution to the problems, and we should have known this. What teacher -- in a house with five children and the children cannot drink milk for whatever reasons -- would drink milk in that house? It is inconceivable that one of our teachers would do this, he would immediately distribute the food. But, I was mentioning some other countries. How many teachers could these send? I remember that when we asked for volunteers, 29,000 volunteered to go. And, when the first teachers were assassinated, I remember that at the last Cuban Union of Young Communist [UJC] meeting, I received the signatures of nearly 100,000 teachers who had volunteered. We had as many as we needed, above all was the spirit of our teachers. This goes to show once again that a teacher who is able to go to the mountains does not have to study in the mountains. It is more of a question of conscience. Our party was able to educate these youths with a revolutionary and internationalist consciousness. Our teachers not only go to Baracoa now, but to Angola and to the Most isolated mountains in Nicaragua, anywhere. It was good to have that reserve of teachers. Another problem arises also in some areas, such as in physics, chemistry, and mathematics, which are basic sciences. Our people and youths greatly enjoy music. That is very good, but they do not like physics, chemistry, or mathematics, at least they have not shown that they do, and several requests have been made. We have seen students enter the majors of music, literature, and history, which we do not scorn or anything, especially literature and history, but we cannot live just by literature or history without engineers and technicians, who are so badly needed for a modern industry, We cannot develop the country's economy without them. The majors of physics, chemistry, and mathematics are not easy, and are not just needed in industry but in medicine and biochemistry. We need this. Students need to know chemistry, physics, and mathematics. I know several imminent scientists who studied medicine and who said that physics had greatly helped them, especially in the study of basic sciences. It is very important that someone be able to develop art and other things, and not [rephrases] We had that old problem. We must have professors of physics, chemistry, and mathematics. The Ministry of Education (?picked) 2,500 teachers, who had graduated, and gave them the chance to study these subjects. The ministry told them: It is your job to study any of these subjects in university. In that way, the reserve of teachers increased by 5,000. There were teachers already there, recently graduated. The reserve made it possible to send teachers to Nicaragua, send teachers to Angola, send teachers to train as professors in important subjects. The reserve is even good for that. It does not bother me if the budget increases because we have increased our teacher reserve by 2,500 or 3,000. This is reflected in the quality of education. They are never a surplus. They are not wasting time. This is one example of the useful utilization of human resources. There are those who are wasting time by doing nothing. But a teacher has to study very hard, for 8, 10, or 12 hours every day. He is doing something very useful, very valuable. In just a few years, this will make our country an educational superpower; that is really being a superpower. These are people who would go to Nicaragua, or anywhere and do anything if asked to. They go to the Saliara. They go there to train the people of Western Sahara; there are Cuban teachers there. They speak Spanish. If they are told to go to other countries, they study the language, be it French, English, or any other language. There are crash language courses. I do not mean that our teachers with bachelor's degrees in primary education are able to teach in only Spanish-speaking countries. They can do it in other countries too, it is not impossible. Teachers with great background knowledge, 6 years of training, are capable of going anywhere. Can we ask for more? In reality, are there many having this type of teacher? No, this is a very special situation. That is not wasted money, or anything like it. Those human resources are not poorly used, but used in the best way possible. We will also have the same situation with physicians sometime in the future. As soon as we have a certain number of physicians, I believe it will be somewhere around 65,000, perhaps we will need 10,000 more to give them an opportunity to train, to take refresher courses after 7 years of work. We take into consideration that this is a science that is rapidly developing, extremely rapidly. We transform that group, those human resources into better quality. That type of increase in the health sector does not bother us. Besides, we need the improvement because at times we are asked to supply 200, 500, or 800 physicians. There have been times when we have had to supply them and had to ask the rest of the physicians to work harder. That is nothing. It is a demonstration of the plans, it does not mean we are bogged down, but rather we have improved in quality. We are going to graduate, it is necessary to repeat it, I tell many visitors...[sentence incomplete] All eyes are directed toward us. We had 6,000 and now we have 20,500. That has been the result of 15 years; 20,500. Well, let me tell you that in the next 15 years we will have 50,000. That figure astonished many people. They hear about the community doctor, the family doctor, the doctor in the school, the doctor in the factory. They ask: How many physicians per inhabitant? Last year we had 250 or so. That was in 1983, in 1983 we had one for every 486 inhabitants. In 1985 -- 2,400 or 2,500 graduate, which are important figures -- there will be one for every 445 [inhabitants]. The numbers mean nothing, it is the concept. In reality, it does not mean anything, because it does not tell what type of medical care is provided. Each of our citizens amounts to three citizens, because the citizen has a doctor in the factory for any kind of problem. [Unreadable text] has a doctor right there, the worker feels safer. If that worker is at home, his family is at home, they also have the doctor there. But this is not a doctor they have to visit to receive attention, the doctor comes to the house. If it is a problem of depression, of diabetes, or a cardiac nature, then the doctor knows he has to go see him. They get accustomed to this service. This is totally new in medical care. It is new, nothing like this exists any where else; it is totally new. It is something like a health guardian. All families everywhere have welcomed the service. Youngsters admire the services they receive. In recent days we invited the who director to visit Cuba, and he talked with the doctors. He was really impressed by the doctors' qualifications, their work. This is something that was of great concern to families, the increasingly growing distance between the doctor and the citizen. Many people in CEMA member countries have shown great interest and have asked Cuba to chair all activities dealing with medical services in the community. The WHO has shown great interest. There is relatively little experience in this area, and there are more than 230 young doctors. There will be 500 doctors studying this specialty next year, but there are now doctors in the mountainous reasons, almost 30 doctors in one area. We must see what happens, because the situation is not the same. If a person lives in a place which requires him to travel 4 hours and so many kilometers to reach a clinic then that doctor has a different set of functions, because a clinic around here might be 10 blocks away. Urgent cases can be resolved there as far as prescribing medicine is concerned. There is nothing like that in some places. Supposedly, the person who lives in a mountainous area must then go to the clinic for a checkup. There was nothing else to do. That is why we have had such great pressures on this. [as heard] With a minimum of 140, they cannot (?build) a clinic, a miracle has occurred. [as heard] They may give him an injection, but at least the doctor is there, and this greatly increases the sense of security. There are now doctors in cooperatives, schools, and in the factories, because that is the concept. The citizen should receive care wherever he may be. If the person is at a camping area, he should have a doctor there. If he is at a hotel taking a vacation, he should have a doctor there too. If he is on a boat or ship traveling to Japan, he will then have someone there who knows about medicine. That is to say, our citizens can count on a doctor, because this has to be multiplied. [as heard] Children are at schools, doctors are then needed there too. Or, the child is at home, where a doctor is also needed. Wherever the citizen happens to be, then a doctor is needed at that place. The thing is not to have some 250 or 300 doctors, but to have those who study medicine ready to care for the citizens, to preserve and look after the citizens health, wherever the person may be. That is really a very revolutionary concept, which can only happen in a socialist country. I am sure that the socialist countries will apply this, because they want to apply it. A government in a capitalist country to apply this concept [word indistinct], but not because of that. I know cases of industrialized countries where the minister [in government] only several months in office, after proposing several small reforms, has already created egoism and tremendous competition among the doctors. This should not happen. Our doctors also go anywhere. It's not that those 3,000 or 21,500 go, against 3,000 or 6,000, but that there is also a tremendous change in the quality of the doctors. We see excellent possibilities in this, if we have a reserve of 10,000 doctors in the year 2002, or 2003, or perhaps before. I am talking about 50,000 doctors, and these figures are very conservative. Some 5,000 students might enroll but they are superior students. The group reflects a better selection of students, more disciplined, with a greater effort put into their training with higher expectations held for them, and taking more rigorous exams without the problem of books, and the result is that quality has increased, in spite of more rigorous exams. There is now greater dedication in preparing students at the preuniversities and finding out about their expectations, and the problems they might find when they enter one of these fields. It is a very large leap. The logical outcome is that quality will increase. All this has been calculated, using somewhat conservative figures,. and quality has ensued. Before, 1,000 students would enroll and 500 would graduate. We had 4,000 medical students, and 2,000 graduated. It was a natural selection. We must make this selection before this stage to see if the students have the vocation, experience, attitude, and quality. If we create a program of this type, and I repeat, with a reserve of doctors in order for the other ones to study, our economic and human resources will not be badly invested, which is excellent. We are now going to do what I said about using human resources in a useful, rational, and optimum way. Right now we have the reverse of this. Many of those who were in the program, perhaps half of those doctors, are women. They go to work in those places with one nurse. When we have 40,000 persons working in that activity, 30,000 will be women. We are not taking them away from mining or the merchant marines, but from the work force. What we should be doing is increasing the number of working women, to participate in production and services, because we have a real force in the women -- not in Havana, but in other provinces. A force which we should be training, except for a greater proportion of women in this activity. [as heard] Another interesting fact is that 60 percent of university students are women. Women now hold first place in the country's technical force, a sector which includes a large number of nurses, teachers, and all of those types of work. This is a good use of human and budget resources, but this takes time. The people will have to be transferred. I said on the 29th, at the ANPP meeting, that instead of having some man or woman doing nothing, it would be better if that person was doing something in the community, working for the health of the population as a doctor, but that is not achieved from one day to another. One does not go and take someone out of an office or some other activities where he is superfluous and send him out to be a doctor. The problem is a little more urgent in the capital, where it has been shown that we lack strength. I am sure we would not lack it if we rationalized resources. After this project, perhaps, we should not begin with Cralima Province, although it should not be permitted the luxury of remaining indifferent to the problem. But logically, in the capital of the Republic, it is more necessary because there are activities which are affected by the lack of personnel -- all the construction projects and many others. Also in the capital of the Republic, for example, the defense requirements are greater. And resources in that area -- more work, more service -- will be noticeable, human resources...[sentence incomplete] It is necessary to rationalize, of course, first, and to optimize, the use of human resources, to conserve them. This understood, it is necessary to dig in and stop that problem from continuing. This is an old problem, of course, and as we have said, we came from being a country with high unemployment, in which only the sugar harvest was organized and people had to run here and there to work. All this brought problems, because the factories where management knew that they had to mobilize volunteers for the sugar harvest and for other purposes and tried to guarantee themselves extra personnel. They would say: I need 10 plus 20 percent. The other one would say: Because I have so many women working and so many problems, I need 10 and some extra in view of health problems. Children are also subjected to discrimination. For example, the factory administrator tells a woman: I need a man for this job. It is necessary to struggle with this problem. There is freedom to enter into contractual agreements; there can be freedom to make contracts but what cannot be free is the consciousness of a revolutionary cadre, of a party member or an administrator. I know that although there is freedom to make contracts, other circumstances being equal, the administrator does not have the moral freedom to say: I prefer a man just because he is a man. Besides the institution of laws, the role of the party must be considered, as the conscience of society. The struggle for all of this...[sentence incomplete] The people were seeking a prescription. This also helped, the underutilization of human resources. [as heard] It was a reserve that was being conserved. When the micro-brigades came into being, this reserve was discovered. Immediately micro-brigade members appeared. This, along with plus-work [one-worker is pulled out of a job to work on a special project and the remaining workers do his regular work for him]... [rephrases) Yes, I know of industries that have done it with plus-work and they built like crazy. They have been awarded the status of Socialist Vanguard in metallurgy. But many rationalized very little and they created their brigades. Others rationalized a little and did not use plus-work. The ones who did practice plus-work were those of the brigade. I recall that they worked 10 hours or 12 with plus-work. This situation influenced other managers but it also exerted an influence on superficiality, the lack of controls, the lack of economic awareness, the absence of an economic system to assist the controls -- all this was influenced. Our spirit of solidarity with the others also exerted influence. But it is necessary to make good use [of resources] One should not practice solidarity with something that is bad, which affects society and affects the country's economy. Our duty is to practice solidarity to help others so that by so doing, we are helping the country and society. Anything else is giving money away as charity. If I need 5 and ask for 10, what purpose is it for? Whom does it benefit? It is like charity and it gives rise to wrongdoing because those five are going to work less. It is counter-productive. There has also been some of that. The reduction of productivity has been Common. It is a substantial fact throughout the revolution. During the capitalist period the canecutters and the cart drivers, and all those people got up every morning and worked 12, 14, or even 15 hours. After the revolution, they could not work under these unrealistic conditions. With the liberation and the triumph of the revolution, the first thing the people wanted to do was to rid themselves of the terrible... [sentence incomplete] The economists said that this was not appropriate. They said productivity and work levels in a less developed country mean that it could have the same budget or work schedule as a developed capitalist country. Well, this is understood. It is very difficult, The people who are victorious have their own victory but they do not yet have knowledge. It is idealistic, it is an illusion to believe that a people can win one day and take power and that the people will have consciousness the same day. It would be a wonder if we could have had the knowledge and the experience then that we have today. But we have not wasted these 26 years. This is a very different people with much more knowledge, who can understand many more things that the people before the revolution. I do not believe there is a revolution anywhere in the world that wins a victory one day and maintains the conditions that existed under capitalism. Also if the revolution does its duty, it must teach the children because they are the future. When a revolution such as the one in Cuba occurs, suddenly no one has to pay for schooling, it is free. No one has to pay for hospitals. Medical care is assured. Money begins to have a lower value because over there [in the United States] everything is money. In Nicaragua I talked about the value of the peso compared to the dollar. In Madrid, a dollar probably has more value than a peso, because the peso has no purchasing power. In Cuba, the peso has much more purchasing power than the dollar in New York. I cited the example of the bus fares, there perhaps you can buy two fares, here 20 fares. Many others can be cited, as the square meter in rents, how many dollars do you need for one square meter? or 50 square meters? It is perhaps $6 per square meter, bow much money do you need for 50 square meters? If one is a member of a micro-brigade with the 6 percent, chief of the group, I do not know, perhaps 15 pesos for the square meter. In that case our peso is worth 20 times more than the dollar. If one does to a stadium, how does the peso compare to the dollar? The peso is infinitely more valuable than the dollar, because it is not needed to enter the stadium and in New York it costs $10, or $15 to enter a stadium. If one goes to Hermanos Ameijeiras [hospital] can you imagine an Hermanos Amijeiras in New York for surgery, or eye surgery, to solve an important problem? We have many hospitals here, but I am citing this one which is known internationally. How does the peso compare to the dollar in this case? If one goes to the university, a student on scholarship in the United States, a 1-year scholarship could cost $6,000, $7,000 or $8,000. To tell the truth in many cases the children receive free milk and everything in Cuba. What a child buys in essential nourishment with a peso, cannot be purchased in New York with a dollar. In other words, the purchasing power of money grows so much here that it becomes infinite. Education does not cost. Money becomes so powerful that it becomes inefficient. In simple words, many vital problems are solved here. I remember that in the old days, the peasant families used to have three hens, or four, and one pig as a reserve. Those were the things he would sell when there was a need for medicine or a doctor's appointment. He would abstain from eating that. Because of that, all these things would make their way to the market. The agrarian reform was enacted, no rent payments needed, or the hospital, or other things, now the peasant eats all three hens. [laughter] The pig does not get to the market. These are realities. That is the revolution. Are we going to lot someone die because he or she has no money? Or in the case of a problem to save that person's eyesight because if we have to send him or her to another country, it would probably cost 10,000 pesos. Are we going to let that person go blind? Can you imagine a revolution that would let that happen? It would go against all principles of a revolution. I am certain of that. We are correct in education, health, and other things. The same is the case with the agrarian reform, including the reduction of rents. This was a great battle, and the people joined us, a nation which did not want to hear about socialism. What is wrong with that? That was bad, because it was what one could read in the DIARIO DE LA MARINA. MUNDO [old Cuban newspapers prior to revolution] press, radio, television, movie theaters every day. They were crazy. I used to say if socialism agrees that the agrarian reform, rent law, electricity tariff -- we reduced it -- are correct... [sentence incomplete] The electricity tariff used to stimulate consumption. Now it is linear. In the old days those who used 50 kw had to pay a lot, an,d everything above the 50 kw was still more expensive, the expense was stimulated. You understood what I said, did you not? The more you used, the more you paid. If you did not understand it, you could not explain it. We enacted those measures then, laws needed by the people to struggle against their historic exploiters. The people's struggle against foreign exploitation; the people's struggle against the corporation, against humiliation, against lack of protection. For the first time in history, the people agreed to struggle. That is why revolutions are so strong. The state, government, everything is at the service of the people, of the oppressed, of the poor. I have always said that the revolution is very strong. It cannot fail. If things are done the way they should be done, the revolutions are invincible. But if they make 10 million mistakes and do not correct them -- mistakes can be made so long as they are corrected as rapidly as possible -- what is bad is making them and not correcting them. For that reason, the revolutions are tremendously strong, they break all chains. The chains can be broken, but the consciousness is not forged. It is very difficult, it takes steps. At the time not much thought was given to the economy. The revolutions know how to end exploitation, dictatorship which is a tool of exploitation, and then struggle and survive. I said that money began to have a value for the people. Even that, those who worked 14 hours because the son was dying, or that he might die because of lack of medicines. A cart driver would say: I am starving, but if I die, what would my retirement be? How much was the pension of a cart driver? I knew many at the time the revolution triumphed that used to get 6 pesos a month, can that be called a pension? It was a retirement out of this world, it was sending him away from earth, can you imagine 6 pesos? Have found many pensions amounting to 6 pesos. These were increased to 60. The people saved some money. This was a tremendous encouragement for people to work. Money ceased to be a,necessity for many reasons. To work so many hours has to be a necessity. To work so many hours ceased to be a necessity so that the person could survive. Capitalism has always functioned with its little reserve, or big reserve. We observe that each one of them does, the capitalists, industrialists, invent here or there, but capitalism cannot work without the reserve. It could not work without that pressure, without those needs, without that total dependence on salary for everything. That exploiting system forces people to work. It is not only the police who force, but a number of strong pressures. So, it needs that reserve to compete, so that the people be disciplined, so that they may appreciate work. But there is no competition, there is a job here, there, or anywhere. Another element for stability that disappears. But those are the problems of socialism, it influences in one way or another. These are situations we have to overcome. Needless to say, we are socialists. This is ways the case. [He asks someone to approach and continues talking] We have enjoyed the first years but it is also possible in recent times, especially these times. Also, that heritage brings the heritage, the new situation, and other factors. provokes a total economic carelessness. I talked about this at the National Assembly. I need so many of schools, or so many other things. I am going to repeat this so you will not think I am against schools, 10, 15, 20 million more, whatever. I need aqueducts, sewers, streets repaired, sidewalks, lights... People say they need more, to send money. How can this be? Around 500 years without sewers, that had to be solved. The people's government was elected there. The elected district delegate reports but he is also forced to report. Look at this hole! The hole is not right, but there is no sewer there. He goes to the Assembly and the Assembly requests -- is there a need? Yes. I am reviewing the expense records of community services. It is amazing. Between 1981 and 1983 -- you saw them also, didn't you? Did you not notice by any chance I read it very fast so I do not know if I am mistaken -- but I think it said they grew at a 25 percent annual rate. What a rate! I ask myself if the economy grew at that rate. The community expenses, all the holes, all the streets, all the sewers are there, pressuring for more money. Bring more money because I am going to solve this problem. I am a faithful servant of the community which has elected me and has made me responsible. I am not against that. No, let him fight for his community to the end. He can try to solve all the problems in one way or another. But I want him to understand that if he does not get everything he asked for just because he asked for it... [sentence incomplete] Until now, what has happened? Everyone asked and all will continue to do it. Money, here it goes. And a budget was made, it was believed the budget controlled a little. When there was no budget and after the budget, it was almost the same. The only thing we did not know was how much was spent. We did not know it before. The budget was established during that phase and it was a great thing. We knew how much each spent. But that did not have an impact on saving what was being spent because he kept asking for more, and he kept receiving. The budget was no restriction. Maybe a little, a little shame, embarrassment, look it is a lot of money. The budget may have had a little influence. But the old mentality I explained continued. There was a divorce between what I need and what I produce, No one may ask for just anything. As I said, how much did the sugar production increase? And such exports? How many more resources? Because you cannot invest what you do not have. I have already explained this enough, what were the factors. I already explained the miracle, the miracle of doing that. The miracle of Alladin's lamp, do you not understand? Do you know what Alladin's lamp is? [laughter] Everyone knows. It is a little lamp that you ask for everything, without limits. That metality was a reality among our cadres and everybody. We should be aware of that. It needs to be overcome as part of a phase. I consider it as something which passed. I consider it passed because I am sure you and we and all of us are going to apply this policy that has been proposed. The only wise, intelligence, revolutionary thing which can be done. You have discussed many ideas and proposals. I think it is right. We have to continue deepening. We have to apply all these criteria. I already explained how 650 million had been requested above what had been spent. There is a foreign press report which figured the growth above the approved budget. [Unreadable text] reality, if we compare the proposal to what was spent, it was 650 million over what was spent in 1984, above the 1984 approved budget. What was spent was more than what was approved. It was 650 over what was approved. So the analysis of the revolution, we have already explained, amounted to 240. When the presidents of the people's government came here and saw this plan which had been elaborated, they were surprised. They believed, as perhaps many people did, that they could not even fill one more hole with the amount of resources they had, after already filling up a lot of holes with what they were spending. This means that nothing was taken away from them that was already spent in 1984, and 240 million more was given to all of them. Of course this expense is unavoidable if we are to graduate 2,400 doctors in September, this will give us some 5 million more per year, not in 3 months -- perhaps around 1 million in one month, but not all at once. If some teachers graduate, some activities must necessarily grow, some 240 million more is extraordinary. Already there was so much spending that if nothing more was given them, nothing would be resolved. They continued resolving many problems because they were already being resolved. If the expense grew by 25 percent, nobody was telling them that they would then receive 20 percent less, but it was maintained and there was an increase if this was necessary. I am sure that by 1986 we can do much better. Now we start to get more out of the work, much more. The economic plan will be much better because some things are already predetermined and set. With conscious care, as I said, we will begin to get more work out of the people, but we must put more into it. So that if they are 10 workers, this number must not be increased to 11. And, if there is a change in the work status and there could be a savings on the personnel list, we must then save. Nobody will be dismissed, but there will be a type of movement. As I have said, everyone appreciates not having unemployment. Everyone knows that if he is not employed in one area he will be in another. Therefore, a certain movement, which is not good, because an excessive movement of personnel does not help the economy. When I expect a personnel list, I will reduce it. [as heard] We must give more study to this because we can invent many things. I invented some, but not all of them. Of course there have been many inventors, I am mainly making note of the errors, but there were many inventors. I do not know where the philosophy of suppressing multi-work came from, it is a genius invention. I have not seen it under capitalism, or in the works of Marx, Lenin, or Engels, or anywhere. That must have come from some new philosopher. Maybe we should make a study of where it came from as well as the idea to sustain it. I don't know. Maybe unemployment was behind this. Maybe the person who did the study found so much unemployment that no labor union wanted a multi-work idea. Maybe multi-work completely failed under capitalistic conditions. I am not saying that it did, I am simply speculating. Now try to imagine the work content. That is the problem. How can one fit each job with its content in a exact mathematical manner? Not even Capablanco playing chess could do that. [laughter] Several things have happened to me on various occasions, such as the great battle. I don't know if I have told that one publicly, but in private I have told that story many times, at parties. It's about the new hospital in Cienfuegos. I visited it when it was under construction, almost completed, and being inaugurated. There must be a comrade out there, because later they brought him to the director and we discussed the personnel list in a gentlemanly and amicable manner. I have discussed the problem of [Unreadable text] rational use of resources for 26 years now, and the personnel lists were inflated. This has been discussed everywhere. They [the workers] would say that Machadito has been helping me a little on this problem recently, for example, at the pioneers city or at such and such a school or such and such a worksite. He also has alot to do with many activities such as secretary of various groups and mass organizations which take up a lot of time. I have always been convinced that this is bad, because our human resources do not call for this. What must be done is invent things which will lead to the correct and useful utilization of these human resources. The other side of this brings about vices of all kinds, such as over spending, people not carrying about economic matters, not- budgeting, working less, disparaging people, and talking too much, this is in certain areas. It is more difficult to do this in certain areas. I have seen workers at the Antillean Steelworks and other places working under those conditions. The machinest working with machines and the wall builder next to his plaster, with machines everywhere, and here this is very difficult to do. But, there are other activities which are not of that type, and they are the ones which run more risk of these things happening. The lathe does not allow this to happen, but the typewriter can, perfectly well, without any catastrophy happening. It could even mean a material savings. [Castro and audience laugh] If I take into account the amount of paper. To continue, in that eternal battle I asked, both the director and I made a solemn promise, better said he made it, because I just believed in the promise, of 900 workers, (?600) beds, a large hospital, very efficient, and built in a rationalized manner. It is not like the Calixto Garcia with one building here and another one over there, but is a monolith-like hospital in block style. Some time went by, and I said, well, let's go see the hospital, to see how it turned out. I asked how many workers the Cienfuegos hospital had, 2 years had passed by then, and they told me that the Cienfuegos hospital was large, and that it had some 1,200 workers. I said that was a betrayal. [laughter] What has the Cienfuegos hospital done to me? That is not right. They wanted to bring the comrade out, who they liked a lot. No, I said, I oppose that change. We must see what has taken place there. I then went to the state committee -- or what is the name of your ministry, they changed the name, it is now called the state committee of labor and social security -- we changed the name, they said. It is not a bad ministry and it does have a competent director. But, what happened? You have spent many years, at least several years. At least several years training specialists, efficiency experts -- when I hear about an efficiency expert school I say, how wonderful. And I say, they may be the ones to save us, the ones to help us find out what a factory, a hospital needs. Then I say, choose the better skilled and more competent ones and send them to Cienfuegos. Let's see what happened with that hospital that [words indistinct]. And with great enthusiasm the efficiency experts went there. They worked, I do not know if it was for a week, 10 or 15 days. They studied each thing, each window, each square meter, each mosaic, what the kitchen had, everything that had to be done there. It is the most complete and comprehensive efficiency project ever done. I was waiting anxiously [laughter] and hopeful [laughter] for the results of that project. I contacted the minister of labor and asked him for the results. No, guess what? They need more workers. [Castro and audience laugh] We have to increase the payroll. That was the conclusion of all the specialists. When the Hermanos Ameijeiras was going to be inaugurated, I was wondering, what the Hermanos Ameijeiras payroll was. It was enormous, I do not know how much. That was during the time of the efficiency project. I said even the Hermanos Ameijeiras will benefit from this magnificent efficiency project we are going to do there. Since the first thing they asked for was 3,000 or I do not how much, well, it would not be the work of efficiency experts and I said this is it, and later we will send the efficiency experts [Castro chuckles] to say. [Castro and audience laugh] course, I did not ask for their cooperation. [Castro and audience laugh] Now we need the cooperation of philosophers. Any time we will have to ask the philosophy faculty to make a selection within the party, the party school, of the most brilliant professors, so they can explain this to us in the light of Marxism-Leninism. [Castro and audience laugh] In reality, we have to search. I believe that among many other things the non-existence of multi-tasks results in multiplicity. Has heard -- presumably refers to lack of workers with multi-occupational skills] When there are so many different jobs, we do not use one worker who could perform three different tasks, even paying him more. It is worthwhile to associate multi-tasks with more pay. A coefficient for multitasks, a high branch coefficient [coeficiente ramal] to reward that man who is going to help us save resources. If he does a good job there, he helps us make the factory or the hospital more efficient. It also helps us make the experts from the ministry of labor more efficient [Castro and audience laugh] and have fewer positions because when we increase efficiency there will be a surplus of positions. Maybe we will send them to take a course so they will learn more. It is possible we have invented things which will have an effect on those people. [Castro makes a clapping sound] Yes, sir. But it is also a pace...because if over a period of time, you have had more than you need.... [sentence incomplete] The intensity of the pace of work at the textile mill is set by the machine, the spinning machine, in many activities, but there are areas where work is not done. We could have gotten used to a much slower pace. Maybe what I am going to say will not be welcome but some other genius must have invented the morning and afternoon snacks. [laughter] Brilliant! He did not take into count the elevators, stairs, the enormous multitude. Because all that is expensive, do not think only the human resource is used up, or economic resources. If we have twice as many workers we need twice as much transportation, and twice as much food at the workers' cafeterias, larger dining rooms, any way you look at it, it is really expensive. But the snack story is known by everyone. I am not proposing anything, I am just trying to create a little awareness on this. A lot has been talked about but it has never been said [as heard]. We do not want to take anything away from anyone. It is not the intention of the revolution to bring extremes. Maybe on that, the efficiency experts cannot help us but maybe dieticians and doctors could be saying that is bad for your health. How many times are you going to eat in a day? They tell me, it is because they do not eat breakfast, that is why they take the morning snack. Well, why don't they take it before they start work? That is an idea. But really, breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner is too much for your health. I am telling you sincerely. [laughter] And for esthetics...incredible. Well, it is not the cost of the snacks. It has nothing to do with that, if there is more bread or less bread. It would be good to save resources and to save health as well. It would be very good. It is not the cost. And another thing. Everything gets disorganized. It is necessary to stop everything. We all do it. In the National Assembly, when we are meeting, after 2 hours, a recess. I agree, there is tension. Everyone takes a break and there is disorder. But someone invented the snack break. We should look for a historian to find out the first time and place and who was the first person who invented the break, in order to verify historically his contribution to Marxism-Leninsm and to the socialist revolution. [laughter] All this is reality and in the measure that we are capable of meditating and discussing These topics, I believe we have made great advances. I believe that you and the members of the party from the grass-roots level have been analyzing everything because you better than anyone can see this reality, to guard it and to struggle for it. To struggle for the country and the revolution is to struggle against irresponsibility, against superficiality, against waste, against things that inhibit the future of our society and of our people, things that assault our honor as revolutionaries. One cannot be a revolutionary and be indifferent to all this. This can be explained by a diverse body of factors which has been contributing to all this and we should struggle each time we become aware of a problem and we will feel better. We will feel more satisfied. We will feel prouder of our revolution because we will know that we have accomplished it because we believe in mankind. The capitalists have a blind faith in selfishness, in competition, in the struggle to the death, in the law of the jungle; socialism is based on confidence in man, in his moral capacity, in his spirit of solidarity, in his great potential virtue. It has been demonstrated that this is so, that it is worthwhile to have faith in man, by the things that our people have done. It has been said: Go anywhere to see if capitalism produces teachers like our teachers. [Words indistinct] the admiration of everyone. Ask yourself if capitalism could produce those teachers, that spirit. And those doctors, I say doctors. And those construction workers, engineers and technicians. And those soldiers that our country has produced by the hundreds of thousands. We could say by the millions. Go and look for them there in any capitalist society in Latin America. If you want to measure a society, measure it by them. If you believe that socialism is oppression, examine it by examining them. Let them come and look at these so-called oppressed people under socialism, and at what they are capable of doing. With all that gloomy history that they want to tell about socialism and communism, what does one society produce and what does the other produce? Ok, let's measure. We will write down the numbers. Let them measure our society against any other system that man has created. It can be demonstrated that the law of the jungle does not produce these virtues. The law of the jungle does not produce these doctors, teachers and soldiers. It does not produce these tens of thousands of vanguards, who are not just the ones who do things outside, they go to Moa, Cienfuegos. They are the ones who, if there is a goal to be met, suspend their vacations, suspend their Saturdays and Sundays, and suspend everything. They work 10, 12, or 14 hours a day, when it is necessary. Then it is not necessary, no one wants to make an effort for the pleasure of it. These are the millionaire brigades in the sugar harvest. The law of the jungle does not produce these men or these virtues. And that is a true, objective, historical fact that the revolution has produced this. The law of the jungle does not produce patriots, who are ready to die for their country. It does not mobilize millions of men and women who are bravely ready and determined to die a thousand times before renouncing a principle, a moral idea, or their dignity; before renouncing the marvelous things of the revolution. The law of the jungle does not produce internationalists or patriots. It has been objectively and irrefutably demonstrated that the revolution, that socialism produces patriots. And it produces internationalists. These are not theories, they are facts. They are not things that will be seen in the future. They are being seen now. We have obtained all this. We have achieved it. What can we not achieve? What can the revolution not achieve? Our party and our people have won many battles. Did we or did we not win the battle against these irresponsibilities? Against these things? Against these defects when we discover them? The revolution can make mistakes but cannot be aware of mistakes, of incorrect things deficiencies, and not overcome them. We have to be aware of what it means that no one, neither the party, nor the union, nor mass organizations know how much the work unit spends. It should be the pride of workers. This is how we are using it, how we are doing it. it was not shown there. How it was, how it will be, or the plans were not known. Everyone should participate in that battle, in that task. What we are not capable of asking for, we cannot receive from our workers and people. Because if there is inability, it is not in the people. It is in ourselves who have not understood or seen. We have not been sufficiently capable, have not been able to foresee and be intelligent. We have not been able to lead properly our workers who rely on us, on the party, on the party leadership, and on the government's leadership. I was talking about Alladin's lamp, of cadres, all asking with enthusiasm, but there is another Alladin's lamp and that one belongs to the revolution, which has accomplished every goal. The revolution has always received what it has asked from the workers and people. Let us talk with all workers. I know the assessments were critical and self-critical in all this process. In other words, we have already begun to gain consciousness. Let us continue the struggle. Let us get going. Let us begin to wage this other battle. I am absolutely convinced that we will win it. Thank you comrades. [applause] -END-