-DATE- 19850218 -YEAR- 1985 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- INTERVIEW -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- CASTRO DISCUSSES RELATIONS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES -PLACE- HAVANA -SOURCE- MADRID EFE -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19850219 -TEXT- Relations With Other Countries A181745 Madrid EFE in Spanish 1655 GMT 18 Feb 85 [Text] Havana, 18 Feb (EFE) -- Cuban President Fidel Castro said today that he has never had any intention of resigning because "it would not be lucrative" for the country, but he added that his succession is assured. Castro said that during the 26 years of the regime "an entire new educated generation has emerged" and that "all that is necessary is that someone be assigned this job and do it." During a 6-hour interview with Ricardo Utrilla, president of EFE, accompanied by Marisol Marin, the agency's delegate in Havana, Fidel Castro emphasized that today Cuba is politically, militarily, and economically stronger than ever. He revealed that at present "there are no more than" 1,000 political prisoners in Cuba, 200 of whom are old prisoners sentenced to long terms for revolutionary activities. At one time there were 15,000 political prisoners. Castro discussed Cuba's relations with the United States, in which he perceives some positive signs that are not exempt from contradictions, and with the USSR, whose leaders "are not guided by national selfishness." He also criticized Europe's attitude. "Europe is worn out. I tell you seriously, Europe does not have much more to give, Europe is politically and intellectually exhausted. I consider it exhausted. A consumer society exacts its price," he said. The Cuban leader said "we are not a people of fanatics," but rather the cement that holds us together "are the ideas, the moral values, and the political values," without any sign of "personality cult" or "bossism." "You will find no street, no school, no statue with my name, nor photographs of myself in public office," he added. However, he said that he continues to lead the country because "for me it is a job like that of a doctor, an architect, an engineer, or a worker." This is my job and I will do it as long as I believe I can be useful," because "I do have more experience now than when I began." He said that often a person is selected for a post other than the one he would have preferred initially because "we have a collective leadership." However, he conceded that he is well aware that at the beginning he performed a role that was "very important" for the revolution. "Leaders might think they are eternal, perhaps irreplaceable. Amid honors and recognition, they do not realize that all it takes is but a few years until people no longer remember them," he said. That is why in Cuba there is a second secretary of the party, "who will take over immediately;" if possible, there should always be a third man. With regard to the United States, "a positive and constructive development occurred" -- the recent migration agreement. It showed that even difficult problems "can be resolved when discussed flexibly, seriously, and respectfully." "There was another development of a general nature which, in my opinion, was positive: a speech delivered by Reagan after the elections, which contained peaceful overtones. In addition, the Geneva meeting was promoted," Castro added. He pointed to other signs in this direction, like the dialogue with Angola, viewing them "as symptoms that might reflect a more realistic approach in U.S. policy." But the Cuban leader also stressed during the interview, the transcript of which was 115 pages long, what he described as U.S. "contradictions." "I certainly do not believe that the U.S. policy is completely defined. On the one hand there is dialogue and on the other insistance on the space weapons programs, the MX missiles, and the new B-1 bombers." According to the Cuban leader, it is not yet clear whether all the positive signs are merely tactical "ploys," since if the arms programs are undertaken, "there will not be detente." Instead, there will be "a colossal arms race, catastrophic for the entire world's economy, and a serious threat to peace." He added that it is important to know "to what extent the intention of achieving military predominance prevails over the willingness to negotiate." However, he guessed that Reagan's great victory and the fact that this is his second term in office will help improve relations. This improvement should fall "within the framework of a more realistic peace policy" on the part of the United States and within the context of improved international relations. He warned, however, that despite certain positive signs, "the path is not clear," adding that those who say that "Cuba should give proof through its actions and not its words," are wrong. It is the other way around. "The United States is a big country, whose actions are the determinant factor in Central America and many parts of the world. It is from the United States that actions rather than a words are required." I have absolutely nothing to prove because we are not impatient; we are in no hurry to improve relations," he said, although he did admit that if things were to get worse, Cuba has no means to counter a blockade. However, "aggression against Cuba, for instance, would in the end imply defeat for the United States" because they would need millions of soldiers to occupy the island, which has all kinds of contingency plans and defense mechanisms, Castro said. Unless the country were "exterminated" or "a few nuclear bombs" were used to blast Cuba "off the face of the earth," the United States cannot win, Castro emphasized. In that case "it would not be a defeat: History could never classify it as a defeat if people have resisted and maintained their flag steadfastly," he stated forcefully. "Yes, our country can be exterminated, but never defeated," he firmly stressed. The leader spoke proudly of Cuba, "one of the only countries in the world that can say here and now what we will be doing in 1990, 1995, or the year 2000;" know how many teachers and doctors we will have and how much of each product will be produced "without counting upon the United States for anything," he said. Fidel Castro said that "it is better to count on the USSR and the socialist countries." It is possible to exchange views with those countries because they are part of "a system that is not driven by the unmerciful selfishness of capitalism." He said that Cuba's relations with the socialist countries are "excellent, better than ever," and that those countries "respect" a country that is "threatened because it will not get down on its knees, a country that does not surrender or sell out." He stressed that "the future does not belong to Europe, it belongs to Latin America," and that "Europe does not have much more to teach." All the European countries "regard us as former colonies with a lot to learn, but actually, it's beginning to change." "We do not need much from Europe and I say this in earnest," he emphasized, stating that the continent "has become an ideological and also an economic colony of the United States." Castro said that the EEC "has an egotistical policy" which exports subsidized agricultural products, demands sugar quotas, practices protectionism and even dumping. "European countries talk about competition," he added, "about free trade; but they do things that have nothing to do with free trade or competition," he said. Throughout these statements, Fidel Castro illustrated his remarks on the deterioration of exchange with examples such as the case of sugar and bulldozers: Years ago 200 tons of sugar purchased a bulldozer; now 800 tons are needed to buy one. -END-