-DATE- 19870208 -YEAR- 1987 -DOCUMENT_TYPE- SPEECH -AUTHOR- F. CASTRO -HEADLINE- EDUCATION SEMINAR 5 FEB -PLACE- KARL MARX THEATER IN HAVANA -SOURCE- HAVANA TELE-REBELDE NET. -REPORT_NBR- FBIS -REPORT_DATE- 19870218 -TEXT- CASTRO SPEECH AT EDUCATION SEMINAR 5 FEB PA102157 Havana Tele-Rebelde Network in Spanish 0130 GMT 8 Feb 87 [Speech by President Fidel Castro at closing session of 11th National Education Seminar at the Karl Marx Theater in Havana on 5 February -- recorded] [Text] Don't let these papers alarm you. I will not use them. I brought them in case I lack some data or something like that. Comrades, as I have said on other occasions -- and I do not know how many more times I will have to repeat it -- I do not like to make wrap-ups [conclusions] or deliver closing statements for events in which I have not participated [word indistinct] and in which I have not really had an opportunity to get to know the full details of the matters debated. However, Comrade Fernandez [Education Minister Jose Ramon Fernandez] insisted that I attend this final part of the event. He felt it was important -- perhaps he exaggerated -- that I deliver some closing statements bearing in mind the complexity of this whole education problem. I have read the newspapers to learn about it. I have talked with him I have read some material -- in a nutshell, the minimum technical [material] required to be able to make some statements regarding the subject you have discussed. However, in essence I was thinking that these discussions would never have taken place if a revolution had not been carried out in our country. These problems are not being discussed in any other Latin American country or in any other Third World country. I think these problems are being discussed only in very few countries of the developed world. First of all, the fact that we are discussing these problems is a great thing and the fact that we -- who are much better off than our Latin American and Central American brothers, and our brothers of the Third World -- are discussing these matters despite the fact, I repeat, that we are much better off, is a very good thing. This demonstrates something fundamental: We are not pleased with our work. Teachers, ministers, and all the rest will surely meet again in 10 or 15 years to discuss all these things because they are not happy with their work. It would be very bad for us to be satisfied with our work because this is how we had been feeling although not all was perfectly all right. [sentence as heard] The problems under discussion have to do with a basic idea that corresponds to this moment, to our era, and to a revolution in progress. This basic idea is quality of education. With and without the congress, with and without criticism, the matter of quality becomes fundamentally important for our country at the present time. Naturally, various aspects have been criticized in the congress, including education. This caused a movement and a broad discussion by the rank and file. This brought about an in-depth analysis and the purpose of positively and constructively answering the criticisms and raising the quality of our education. However, specific, more strict measures, and several problems arose. It was clear that the problems were even greater than anticipated. Several contradictions appeared. The existence of mistakes and negative trends was even more evident. Nevertheless, professors and teachers should not regard themselves as the only sector of the country with mistakes and negative tendencies. Mistakes and negative trends also occurred in other sectors, as you have seen during these discussions at the congress. In many cases, there were mistakes and negative pendencies even more serious than those in education. Of course, each of the branches, each of the sectors are interested in their own problems and their solutions. Really, these problems and errors start this way, but and [changes thought] one could say that about most of our revolutionary aspects. One of them is that we were resting upon our laurels. I am not going to talk about this as all of last year I spoke extensively on all these problems. Here is where the contradiction between promotions and the quality of education became evident. It is clearly apparent that the criteria of promotion prevailed. I myself spoke many times and warned against this, many times. I must have said this in no less than 8 or 10 speeches where I mentioned a phrase, the promotion phrase, which included the word quality. [applause] It was apparent that much emphasis was put on promotions and not enough on quality. In order to advance a student everything was evaluated, and it became apparent that in order to pass, efforts were made, reviews were made of the subjects. It is alright to review, but these reviews practically told the students what the exam questions would be. The students were passing the exams and we were resolving the problem of student promotion, but not on the basis of quality, but by making things easy and sometimes even by way of fraud. As for the question of quality, it was not only appropriate but a necessity to correct errors and negative trends, and that was one of them. It was also related to the revolution's need to raise quality. It is related to this period of revolutionary process which has surpassed the question of quantity. Quantity indexes now mean nothing. For a long time quantity indexes told us: There once was a certain percentage of illiteracy, and now there no longer is that percentage; there was a certain number of children without schools, and now there are far fewer because now we have schools, there was a certain number of children that were below average in school, and now there are fewer children who are below average. There was a complex enrollment structure in which nearly all were primary students. That is no longer so. The number of primary students and higher level... [corrects himself] the number of mid-level and high school students was equal or greater than the number of primary school students. The number of teachers with degrees was 30 percent in primary school; 70 percent of the professors did not have their degrees. There was a large number of high school students, but then there were not enough teachers, so it was necessary to recruit the students of pedagogical departments to give a helping hand. The problem of university students, the problem of failed students -- all these matters have to do with the quantitative factors of our educational system. We were already graduating 100 percent of primary school students. We never got to this state with the mid-level students because the rules of the game were changed. Then there were other grades and titles and it placed us in a situation where we now have 35 percent in the basic high school level. We could then speak of a level of 97 or 98 percent of children between the ages of 6 and 12 enrolled in school, a very high level. And we know that our schools are everywhere. That is why I cannot understand the international statistics which state that the United States has 100 percent enrolled in school. We just do not believe that. We know the problems that lack of schooling bring about. We know of the problems that prevent it from being 100 percent. There are many social problems of this type that exist at a much higher level in the United States than in Cuba. We know what happens to the immigrants, to those who are there illegally, what happens in the Hispanic and black neighborhoods, what happens in the big cities -- poverty, begging, and lots of special problems -- but they have the gall; in other words, UNESCO reports: 100 percent enrolled in schools. We do not go that far, but we believe the efforts we have made to enroll students cannot be surpassed by anyone in the world. We should have one of the highest indexes. But look carefully: It is quantitative. The indexes of those 12 to 16 years old who are enrolled is nearly 90 percent. Those are quantitative indexes. If the school enrollment for those 12 to 16 years of age is more than 90 percent, those are quantitative indexes. Those indexes do not really say much about the education efforts we must make. It is obvious, then, that during the remainder of this century and in the next all our efforts will have to be directed toward the quality of education. I think this is the main focus of our present problems. I would not want to say that there are not other countries that are ahead of us -- other Latin American and Third World countries -- in the quality of education. I sincerely believe that we are ahead of the rest, even in that regard. This is what we are talking about and what we are dissatisfied with, the quality of education. However, this alone must not satisfy us, particularly when we know that we can do much more. The truth is that we need much more. Our country, the revolution, socialism, and our desire to someday have a superior society, even a communist society, call for much more. This has become the main issue of our discussion. Several factors are involved in this. We have already approached some, others have not been approached in depth. We have talked about -- and for a reason -- the quality of our professors' work. Even though we know that we have many good professors and teachers, not all the work being done by every professor and teacher is good. Therefore, we must improve the quality of their work. We know that even though there are many good or excellent classes, there are also many that leave much to be desired. This has to do with the quality of education, and we are asking professors for more effort to improve the quality of their work. We are also demanding everyone's help to achieve this improvement in the work of professors and teachers. This effort cannot only be demanded from professors and teachers; it must also be made by parents and families. Even though quality is something that a school must provide, we must not underestimate or free the family of this responsibility in regard to this facet of education that has much to do with the quality of education. We must also demand more effort from students. We would be fooling ourselves if we were to believe our students are doing their best. They are not. During a recent poll in Havana Province we talked with the parties involved: with the families, students, and professors. They brought up issues related to the quality of education. For example, we asked everyone to say what they considered was the biggest problem affecting the education process. Almost 80 percent of you mentioned the biggest problem was giving students unearned passing grades; others said the biggest problem was discipline; others said it was poor quality in teaching; while still others said too much subject material was being included in each class. Others who were asked what they considered the biggest problem spoke of insufficient demands, making things too easy, teachers being transferred, etc. Among the schools visited, the biggest problems seen were: The students are not studying -- I am not afraid to say this and I do not want this to be used as an excuse to blame the students for the problems the education system is experiencing. But 97.8 percent of the professors mentioned this as the main problem. Almost 100 percent of them said this was the biggest problem. However, 93.1 percent of the students said the students were not studying. The students said this and 87.2 percent of the parents also admitted that, the students are not studying. Another problem mentioned was absenteeism; 90.3 percent of the professors, 89.3 percent of the students, and 89.5 percent of the parents admitted that this is a big problem. Also, 85.7 percent of the professors, 91.1 percent of the students, and 84.2 percent of the parents said that the biggest problem was lack of discipline among the students. [all figures as heard] The problem of too much subject material in a class was mentioned by 83.6 percent of the professors and 68.2 percent of the students -- they complained the least about this. The problem of absenteeism among professors was presented as a problem by 76 percent of the professors, 76.6 percent of the students, and 79.5 percent of the parents. The problem of poor class quality was mentioned by 63.4 percent of the professors, 65.3 percent of the students, and 66.7 percent of the parents. Other problems mentioned were that a full day of school was not being put to the best use, too many teachers were being transferred, etc. For example, the problem of teachers using transferred was mentioned by 52.4 percent of the professors, 73.6 percent of the students, and 77.6 percent of the parents. By all these figures we can see the most honest of all the people who participated in the poll were the students. I was surprised by the professors. However, the answers given by the teachers and professors were much more in accord with the situation than the answers given by the parents. There is an odd situation here regarding the degree of responsibility that corresponds to each one of the factors involved in the teaching-educational process. The teachers said the most important factor concerning the degree of responsibility... [changes thought] teachers were the group that most frequently mentioned the family as having the greatest responsibility. Eighty-six percent of the teachers said the family had the highest level of responsibility. The family was the most-mentioned factor. It was mentioned by 81.5 percent of the students, and by 79.3 percent of the parents; at least a great number of them admitted they are responsible, that the family is responsible. As for students' responsibility, the degree of responsibility attributed to students, this factor was mentioned by 66.9 percent of the teachers, 71.9 percent of students, and 76 percent of parents. Now, regarding teachers' responsibility, it was mentioned only by 66.3 percent of teachers, 65.8 percent of students, and 86.1 percent of the parents. In other words, families want to give more responsibility to teachers than to themselves, and conversely, teachers want to give more responsibility to the family than to themselves. Regarding the psychological factor, teachers were the most pessimistic. They believe problems are very difficult to solve. They also are pessimistic. However, this is not too bad after all. Let us say that approximately 71.7 percent are not doing so well, 40.4 percent are optimistic, 21.7 percent feel confident, 6.9 percent are happy, 1.4 percent are satisfied, 1.3 percent are untroubled, 9.3 percent are worried, 5.5 percent are angry, 3.8 percent insecure, 1.5 percent pessimistic, 0.2 percent frustrated. Excuse me, I read the wrong column. For teachers, optimistic, 43.8 percent; confident, 18.1 percent; happy, 2.7 percent; satisfied [words indistinct]; favorable: a total of 66 percent. Worried, 11.9 percent; angry, 8.6 percent; insecure, 4 percent; pessimistic, 2.4 percent; frustrated, 0.4 percent; which is twice what I read before [as heard]. I read from the first column, which showed a total amount. Students: 32.4 percent optimistic; 26.6 percent confident; 16.2 percent happy; 3.9 percent satisfied; [figure indistinct] untroubled. The total percentage of students showing a favorable, optimistic, and confident attitude was 81.6 percent. Those showing a negative attitude totaled 10.2 percent. Families: 74.2 percent showed a favorable state of mind, while 14.8 percent had an unfavorable attitude. Now, let us look at the main criteria and recommendations expressed by those interviewed on the educational problem. There is an interesting point here. How many feel that the family plays the most important role in the home-school relationship; 84 percent of teachers, 13.5 percent of students; and only 5.5 percent of parents. They do not even want to discuss the problem. Thus, 80.4 percent of the teachers interviewed mentioned the important role played by the family as well as a good home-school relationship. However, only 5.5 percent of the parents interviewed referred to this problem in that sense. There is more: Of every three students interviewed, one expressed satisfaction with Resolution 37 [not further identified], and so forth. Now, regarding the elimination of the easy method [facilismo] and the granting of unearned passing grades [promocionismo] as one of the most popular measures, 67 percent of the teachers...or parents...67 percent...no, 67 percent of teachers mentioned the elimination of the easy method and the granting of unearned passing grades as one of the most apt measures. Oddly enough, only 6.1 percent of parents mentioned this. That is why I say that parents are really the most unrealistic. Only 6.1 percent mentioned this subject. [all figures in preceding nine paragraphs as heard] This is how the statistical data obtained in surveys translate into reality. There is no doubt that the teachers' work is most significant. There is no question about it. But there is also no doubt that the work of the parents is also most important. It is also a basic matter. We must demand from professors and teachers their maximum effort, regardless of what the parents may do or fail to do, because they have a great responsibility. Now, our society must also demand maximum effort from parents. This is not a parents' association meeting, but one could well be organized. One could be organized, so that they also could discuss the problems concerning education. It could be organized. I am not saying do it tomorrow -- there are too any meetings already. But our society can educate parents, help to educate parents. Our mass organizations, our mass media, our press, can write and talk more. They can help and contribute, and encourage parents. An educational job must be done with parents, because it is cause for concern -- in some ways it is cause for concern -- that there should be cases where professors tend to shove greater responsibility on parents; parents attempt to shove it on professors; and only in a minimal percentage of cases are parents clearly aware of all they can do to help improve their children's education. I believe it is a job for the party, the mass organizations and the entire society to make efforts, and to exert themselves to improve the quality of education as is demanded by the revolution. We are aware of the existing social problems; we are aware of the tremendous handicaps of broken families, of divorce. It would also have to be taken into account how much influence these factors exert over the problems of the young ones. Because, not exclusively in education, but even in the social behavior of citizens, of adolescents and young people, we find that these factors exert much influence -- when they lack attention from their parents. Sometimes they only receive attention from the mother or only from the father and sometimes, unfortunately, they lack attention from either mother or father. In these cases, the result is relatively high delinquency rate. We also know that the social factors that still exist in our country -- stages of development, the poverty of the past, the living conditions that many children still endure, the environment where they are educated, what they see and what they learn in the streets -- also exert influence. Somebody was telling me that one of the teachers said that sometimes he felt as though all he accomplished in school was destroyed at home. This may be true, that such a feeling may exist. This, however, must not discourage us, this must not lead us to feel defeated. It would be more difficult for us to instill adequate behavior and a sense of responsibility in all parents. It would be more difficult for us to change many of the objective conditions that still persist in our society than it would be for us to make a greater effort. Educational organizations, professors, organizations [as heard] must try, with a greater effort, to compensate for the shortages and the problems left to us by these social situations that exert influence on the lives of the people. Our awareness of the responsibility of the environment and the family must not lead us to diminish our efforts, to weaken our work, to lower our contributions to the solution of these problems, because I firmly believe that the school can do a great deal. I really think that the professors and teachers can do a lot. I realize that they cannot do everything, but they can do a lot. The revolution could not expect all parents to shape up or all family and marital disputes to disappear, because that would be dreaming, or that all problems of a social or material type disappear suddenly, because that would be dreaming. However, the revolution does have the right to ask this entire generation of professors and teachers who have been trained under the revolution, who have been educated by the revolution with more efficiency or less efficiency, who have grown under the revolution -- has the right to ask, and does ask, for their maximum effort. [applause] Dear comrades, we cannot stop and do research on international experiences regarding this problem. When our country addressed the problem of education, of illiteracy, we used our own experience. The revolution was creative in its methods to stamp out illiteracy. It used creative methods to move the teachers to the mountains and everywhere else, and to create the pedagogic detachment at the time of the big boom in its level of education. The revolution was creative regarding the schools and the countryside, in the schools, in the countryside [Castro repeats himself]. It was creative when it combined study and work. I ask myself if other countries use this system to such a high degree, if other countries have made an effort to such a high degree as the revolution in this field. The revolution has been very creative in the field of education because it is difficult to imitate in this field. Each country adapts its own methods to its own historical conditions, to its own problems. I will say something else. Other countries do not look for problems for themselves, they want absolutely no problems in this regard. Here we spend days, and even months, discussing the matter of the evaluation, the strictness of the evaluation. We discuss the absolutely necessary and just question of adapting the evaluation to the quantity and quality of the education. We are doing this now -- trying to find the proper formula to conciliate the proper evaluation, the proper quality, and the proper advancement with mass education, because this is not education for an elite group but education for absolutely all children in our country. [It is not] for a group, for a minority. Education is for everyone, including those who for some health reasons or for some factor they were born with, require special schools and special education. The revolution neglects no one. It does not neglect a single person, whether the student is blind or a deaf-mute, or whether he has any problems of any kind, be they physical or mental. It does not neglect a single person, which is why 45,000 students are enrolled in our special schools. There was not a single special school, or a single student enrolled in such nonexistent schools in our country at the time of the revolution's victory. No statistical comparison can be made because statistics go from zero to 45,000. This education, therefore, has a universal character. It has been created, established, and developed for the benefit of all the country's children. We have to attend to all of them. We have to educate all of them. We have to teach all that can be taught to all of them, to each and every one of them. This is the principle, and according to this objective, we have to match the massive quantity with quality, to conciliate the massive quantity with advancement. We have to conciliate this, and I do not think in any way that this is an unresolvable contradiction. I am convinced that we can find a solution to this contradiction in favor of quality. It is possible, and this is the question. This is the essential problem to be solved. That is why we discuss, think, and ponder ways to find the best formulas to do so. We do not lack resources. All of us know that we do not lack the resources. We may face difficulties, such as the ones you mentioned -- that materials lacked by each technical or technological school do not arrive, that books are delayed, that there is no water in certain schools, that an installation is not good, or that there are too many students in some of them. However, they do not lack resources. Among Third World countries, Cuba is the country that has more resources for education. No other country has so much; if you do not believe it, analyze available statitistics. We are now spending 175 pesos per inhabitant on education. That is nearly 1.8 billion pesos of our budget, nearly three times the amount spent in other sectors such as public health despite the importance of this sector. We spend 1.8 billion pesos. The revolution has never scrimped on resources for education. We have never scrimped with funds from our budget to hire a new professor or even for an excess number of professors, because we plan to use those funds to foster the continuous improvement of our professors. We have reached a point where we now have an excess of teachers. We are employing them to resolve current problems. We are sending many primary school teachers to study, to train professors in physics, chemistry, mathematics, and other fields that have been deficient. More than 10,000 primary school teachers are on reserve. No other sector in the country enjoys this situation. However, the nation at present has 265,000 professors and teachers. I would dare say that no other country in the world has a higher percentage of professors and teachers per inhabitant; I said no other country in the world. We also have more than 160,000 students in teachers centers, schools for primary school teachers, the Superior Pedagogical Institute, and the various educational centers in the country. We have more than 160,000. No other country has a larger number of professors and teachers studying. There is no country where they are systematically studying; there is none. We could say more about this matter. We are trying to get primary school teachers to upgrade their education. Many thousands of primary school teachers are studying for a bachelors degree in primary education. I doubt that there is any other country in the world today that practically ensures that all primary school teachers will receive bachelor's degrees in primary education after a total of 18 years of study. [sentence as heard] That is 18 years; the 9 years they already have at admission time, plus 4 others, which makes 13, and the final 5; I think it is 19 years [as heard]. At least 18 years of systematic studies to teach first to sixth grades. There is no country in the world doing this. Therefore I ask: Do we not have a right to expect and demand superior and better quality? Do we not have the right to be optimistic regarding the possibility of achieving a really superior education; superior to any other country? In the field of education, what other country in the Third World -- in act what country in the developed world -- can say this? The age and youth [as heard] of our professors and teachers depend on us and only on us. We have enjoyed all the necessary resources, cadres, personnel, the highest per capita index. They are talented people. I am not the only one saying this. Our visitors say it, because we are comparing ourselves to ourselves; comparing the good things we could do with the things we fail to do. People coming from abroad marvel at the progress made by our country in the field of education. We should only compare ourselves to ourselves, because we do have someone else to compare ourselves with [Castro chuckles] ourselves; compare what we are currently doing with what we could do. I said that some countries do not even bother with this, because I have asked how [Castro chuckles] they solve this problem in other countries. Many countries facing this problem pass every student from one grade to the other from 1st to 12th grade [Castro chuckles]. Well, I believe this is an easy formula. Imagine if we should adopt this formula. Imagine if we say: Genetlemen, sleep in peace, do not worry, because all students, 100 percent of them will pass from 1st to 12th grade. We cannot do that. We must not do that. Our feeling, our concept of quality demands from us other methods which we cannot copy. We have to seek our own solutions. We have no other alternative but to seek our own solutions. We have to find our own solutions. We will find them. We will continue to seek them until we find them. I was told that there was a discussion -- a comrade brought this up here -- about what to do with the passing from the first grade. I think that in principle it has been agreed that there should not be any retention in the first grade and that every student should pass from first to second and that afterwards the evaluations have to be made in order to pass. I do not see any other way to struggle for quality if there is no evaluation and if there is no establishment of the principle that each student must be in the grade that corresponds to his knowledge. That formula which was discussed was accepted in principle. The professor could even pass with the student from the first and second grade; others could pass from the first to the fourth grade, and others from the third to the fourth grade. This is being proposed based on the idea -- it is not an absolute idea or truth -- that the ideal thing would be for teachers to pass. As someone who is not an expert on the subject, I think the idea of having a primary school teacher specialize in first grade is narrow-minded. If you were talking about the teachers of the past who entered after sixth grade, who studied to be a teacher after sixth grade. [sentence as heard] Those teachers who enter after ninth grade study for 4 years. They then obtain primary education degrees. That is, 18, 19 years of study -- how could that teacher not be qualified to pass with the student from the first to the fourth grade, which seems to be the ideal? Of course, when we speak about a formula for this year, these are not definitive formulas. As I was saying earlier, we have to adapt the measures to our realities, to the current realities, because of the massive nature of our education, because of the problems that we have with quality, because of the problems that have given rise to this effort, this movement for improvement, for perfecting, for the study of the content, for the elimination of the subjects that are not essential so as to prevent overload and many other measures being discussed. We have to adopt the steps we will take now, which will not be the definitive ones. We are at a critical moment. I really believe, and experience teaches us this today, that we have scarcely intensified and increased in a generalized manner the rigorous presentation of the problem of these massive passings, the worrisome high number of passings that led to the discussion in the congress which led to the formula -- in my view very wise and correct -- about adapting the evaluation to the quantity and quality of teaching. We have to do so. We have to take these steps about which we spoke earlier. Experience shows us that it is better to make one cut and not two. And we have come to the conclusion, well, to give the tests after the cut and the reevaluation and even a special exam [el extraordinario]. We must clear the path. We should take time to carry out this policy. The increase in quality is really what is demanded. It could not be done in 1986 or 1987 nor will it be done in 1988. I think we really have to take the entire quinquenniwn to carry out this process calmly in firm and sure foundations. The objective that must never be forgotten for a single second is the increase in quality. It is the idea of passing along with quality. In this way, there will be passing with quality. This idea will be a principle, but at the same time there should also be the idea that quality is preferable to passing even though the ideal thing would be to have the greatest number pass. We must not lose sleep over the idea that some of the students, for whatever reason, will not pass and that they must repeat the courses. We should not and must not lose sleep over this. In no way should the ideal aspiration of the highest number of passings conspire against the quality of education and the quality of the evaluation. We already passed through such an experience. If we do not reach 90, [not further specified] we do not reach 90; if we do not reach 89, we do not reach 89. We will reach where we should reach applying the principle of quality in education in a rational manner. It is possible that if we improve our work we may attain higher quality promotions. I do not think we should work toward 1987 or 1988; I believe we should work toward the 4th congress, so that at the 4th congress education can report to the party and the country on what it has accomplished to overcome those criticisms that were made at the 3d congress and what has been done to overcome those negative trends and errors. [applause] There is not much time, but I believe it is enough to work firmly and in depth and continue perfecting our system, of perfecting the educational system. The idea was that everything we did had to be constantly analyzed and improved. The concept of improvement includes the concept of constant betterment of the system, and they believe that now we have to perfect the system. We have to improve on what we have established. I believe we should take the time to work hard, analyzing all that has been said and all the measures taken. Time is needed to digest all that has been agreed upon. I was speaking with Fernandez, and I suggested that we should hold another meeting next year just as we are doing with workers, hospitals, or take more time. [sentence as heard] We reached the conclusion that we should meet next in 1989, not in 1988. By that time we should have properly analyzed solutions. [30 second break in reception] We should shed aside all defeatist ideas, all beliefs that it is impossible to overcome this difficulty despite its complexity. We must work toward the quinquennial; work to resolve many of these improvement problems by 1989. That is all -- 2 years. We must also adjust the evaluation to the quality and quantity of education, as was agreed at the congress, and to adopt all necessary measures without fear of probing, experimenting -- no one can claim to have the absolute answer. I think that this meeting has been very positive and has given us the opportunity to openly discuss these topics, to suggest solutions and even reach some solutions. There will be material problems. We were saying here that we thought a school of 1,700 students might prove too big and one of 1,000 or 1,200 might be better. We could face the task of building some of these schools (words indistinct] special ones. Havana itself has 25-school program: 5,000 students. It is estimated that there is a need for more than 70,000 students in specialized schools. We have to build them. Some students have behavior problems, others have mental problems of one type or another, physical limitations -- in many cases they are indeed physical limitations. Havana must have all the specialized schools it needs in 2 years. Havana will jump ahead of the other provinces by 1 year. I once asked that a study be made of the number of specialized schools needed. I think it was about 200. We hope to carry out a similar plan to the one we did this year for Havana, to solve the problem for the rest of the country by the year 1988, using microbrigades. We want to draw up a plan for building specialized schools using microbrigades in the remaining provinces of the country. If there are that many needed we could work out a 3-year plan, or 4 or 5-year plans, and when we attend the 4th congress we will be able to say that all the country's needs for specialized schools have been satisfied. I do not know what will happen to the thousands of children that need these types of schools and instead are mainstreamed with other students. I can imagine that our country can do this, whatever the economic difficulties may be. Our country has strength and energy, although that rectification process is using up a lot of material resources. When I talk about microbrigades I mean rationalizing labor forces. I am not talking about their work; we can do this further down the road. I am talking about padded payrolls and too many factory employees. I am talking about the extra workers. This rectification process, which covers many areas of our economy and society, can provide resources that could help us fulfill those material needs. It is clear. In our meeting with university students, we discussed the problems related to the construction of the teachers' school such as the unfinished installations in Manzanillo. We even said that with the help of microgroups [micro unidades] we could start the construction of the higher institute of that place, of GRANMA in Manzanillo this year, because we were informed of the poor material conditions of those students, of those students [repeats himself]. We can promote the completion of all those unfinished installations and provide the necessary materials for the education of the teaching body as a contribution to the ambitious, super ambitious, program to upgrade the teaching body. We agreed...[changes thought] when the issue was discussed at the congress of the Federation of University Students, the topic was the problem of the requirements to enroll in teachers' schools. At that meeting, we concluded that we had no reason to go crazy trying to enroll 7,000 students in those schools. It was said that there was a certain number of students who, not having any other alternatives, chose teaching careers -- or rather entered teachers' schools. We flatly said that it did not have to be 7,000 people, that it could be 6,000, 5,000, or 4,000 people who had a true teaching vocation. We are not facing a desperate situation if we consider the large number of people who are enrolled in teachers' schools. We wanted to be categorical on that. You know that I have suggested having teachers in reserve, but we did not set the date for the creation of those reserves. We would rather take longer in applying those dreams, dreams that will come true...[changes thought] because in addition to the current upgrading programs for teachers, we can establish an optimum system for a continuing upgrading of teachers, including sabbatical years, etc. We need to have teachers in reserve to establish that system, but we do not have to set a definite date or a definite deadline for the creation of that reserve of teachers. Above all, we are interested in the quality of those who enroll in our teachers' schools. We should apply that same principle to elementary schools. We should be more concerned about the quality than the quantity of students who enter elementary schools. Those youths who have a real vocation [3-second break in reception] for education. Are there or are there not subjective conditions for our teachers and professors to emphasize quality, to fight and win this battle? What trials have our teachers and professors not been capable of facing? Here we had [words indistinct]. Thousands of elementary-school teachers and professors have accomplished internationalist missions. If our data is correct, over 20,000 teachers and professors have completed internationalist missions, over 20,000. As I have said on other occasions, when Nicaragua needed teachers approximately 30,000 teachers registered. When the mercenary bands at the service of imperialism killed some of our teachers, approximately 100,000 teachers registered to go there. Our teachers wrote indelible pages of self-denial, heroism, courage, and sacrifice. They won the admiration of our people and of other peoples. Our teachers have accomplished internationalist missions wherever they have been needed. They went to Angola, Mozambique, Ethiopia -- anywhere. They always gave a brave and worthy response. They accomplished very difficult missions; they experienced hard times. They participated in those missions at a time when the revolution did not have teachers, when our country did not even have enough teachers to send to the Cuban mountains. Today I can speak about over 20,000 teachers and professors who have accomplished internationalist missions. How can we fail to fight and win this battle? This has been a trial period. It has been very difficult for teachers and professors, for the teaching body in general. It has been a period for criticism. This period has been difficult for everybody, for workers, peasants, students, youths, party militants, and all intellectual workers. I know that teachers have reacted with dignity, honor, and modesty, because they reflect the spirit of the majority of our instructors, professors, and teachers. There is a minority not fully aware of its duties and responsibilities; however, that should not discourage us because a crowd of young well-educated people will follow. Even if we are selective, several thousand students will enter these education centers every year. Those who do not have the true vocation to be teachers will be left behind. Those who do not deserve the honor of that immense responsibility will be leaving their ranks. Ranks will be purged in the education sector, and we will retain only the best. Fortunately, they will be the majority of our instructors, professors and teachers. [applause] No one should be discouraged, on the contrary, we have many reasons to feel optimistic and encouraged. Those of you who are here are the backbone of our educational system. You, directors of all higher education centers here, the 500 directors of primary schools, the hundreds of education cadres working in the central organization and in the provinces, have an important role in this battle. You must convey the spirit now that you are leaving this event, you must convey this to the tens of thousands, rather to the hundreds of thousands of professors and teachers the subjects discussed here, the spirit with which we analyzed the problems here, the solutions we found and tried to find to many of these problems, and the purpose of working hard until each difficulty is resolved. You must return to work with optimism -- because there were some gloomy times that hindered our view of the future. We feel that the path is clearing, that the future looks better and more secure. I hope that when a new poll is conducted the number of skeptics will be less than 27 percent, and that more than 70 percent of the education workers will have a more positive attitude, because there is no place in our ranks -- the ranks of the men and women of a nation who have set a great destiny -- for the skeptical and defeatist. [applause] There is no place for defeatist and negative attitudes in the ranks of our instructors, professors, and teachers who have taught and brought education in our country to very high levels. There is no place for pessimists in the ranks of our revolutionary people who have written glorious chapters. There is no place the history of this hemisphere and of the Third World nations for defeatist or pessimistic people. [applause] We are sure that you will bring a new, revolutionary spirit to all the provinces, a spirit of struggle, and the conviction that as many of you have said, instructors, professors, and teachers united with the government and party will know how to wage and win this battle. Fatherland or death, we will win. [applause] -END-