-DATE- 19930213 -YEAR- 1993 -DOCUMENT TYPE- -AUTHOR- -HEADLINE- Fidel Castro Addresses Santiago Working Meeting -PLACE- CARIBBEAN / Cuba -SOURCE- Havana Radio Rebelde Network -REPORT NO.- FBIS-LAT-93-030 -REPORT DATE- 19930217 -HEADER- ======================================================================= Report Type: Daily report AFS Number: FL1602233693 Report Number: FBIS-LAT-93-030 Report Date: 17 Feb 93 Report Series: Daily Report Start Page: 4 Report Division: CARIBBEAN End Page: 13 Report Subdivision: Cuba AG File Flag: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Language: Spanish Document Date: 13 Feb 93 Report Volume: Wednesday Vol VI No 030 Dissemination: City/Source of Document: Havana Radio Rebelde Network Report Name: Latin America Headline: Fidel Castro Addresses Santiago Working Meeting Author(s): President Fidel Castro at a working meeting to analyze the progress of the electoral process, at the Heredia Theater in Santiago de Cuba on 11 February- recorded] Source Line: FL1602233693 Havana Radio Rebelde Network in Spanish 2100 GMT 13 Feb 93 Subslug: [Speech by President Fidel Castro at a working meeting to analyze the progress of the electoral process, at the Heredia Theater in Santiago de Cuba on 11 February- recorded] -TEXT- FULL TEXT OF ARTICLE: 1. [Speech by President Fidel Castro at a working meeting to analyze the progress of the electoral process, at the Heredia Theater in Santiago de Cuba on 11 February- recorded] 2. [Text] [Castro] Dear Comrades: A few hours after coming to Santiago de Cuba, and based on the experience of the working meeting in Havana on 6 February, I proposed to Comrade [Esteban] Lazo the idea of holding a similar working meeting for Santiago de Cuba Province at the end of this lightning campaign we were doing. We could say this meeting would be a follow-up, not the conclusion, but rather a follow-up to this work we have been doing. Then we also had the idea of inviting the comrades from the eastern provinces, where we knew there was a more or less similar situation to that in Santiago de Cuba, to analyze the experiences of these days. 3. I think important changes have occurred in the past week, although the week has not yet ended, starting with the working meeting in Havana. We are aware that the meeting was very necessary, because there was confusion. There was a need for general guidance, because each person was interpreting....[pauses] Because people were interpreting the ideas and needs quite well, but each person was putting their own nuance, stamp, or thing on them. We are waging a hard, difficult battle. It is a very important one within the special period. This does not mean that the special period will be over when the elections are over, but they are a very important step forward to prepare us for the great struggle of the special period. 4. One of the most important things, and one that most concerned us-and this was clearly seen-was the great danger of making mistakes when voting. This was very present. This came up everywhere. A trace appeared here, when the comrade from Segundo Frente explained after the little trap....[pauses] Because at least the impression I got was that it was a little trap set by someone who asked which of the two candidates he was going to vote for. But that problem was very present. 5. This is primarily due to the kind of elections we have had in the last 15 years. They were base-level elections to elect the district delegates. These elections made us accustomed to voting for one person out of several, up to eight sometimes. There was a minimum of two and a maximum of eight. In the first elections there were seven or eight. There were more candidates. Some candidates consolidated their positions and were nominated by different areas in the same district, and the number of candidates dropped to two or three. (?In some cases there was only one.) But we had to choose from among them. 6. Now all of a sudden there are elections where it is precisely the opposite. They have other principles and another basis. However, we had to start with the other kind of elections, the traditional kind, the election of district delegates. These were the same: choosing. Then all of a sudden, a few weeks later, we are changing to a system that does not consist of choosing, although one can choose. The Constitution and the laws give the right to choose. One can vote for one, two, three, all, or none. That is the option that the voters have the right to. We respect that right from the legal and juridical point of view. 7. We are not trying to obtain anything through pressure or coercion. Rather, we are trying to use persuasion. It is a matter of persuading people about what we should do and how we should do it. It is a matter of persuading the populace about the difficulties that could result from our new method of holding elections. The first difficulty-I repeat-is that of making mistakes. Mistakes could have very negative consequences, within our concept. Because we would like to improve our electoral system, not complicate it, not lead it into a blind alley. Rather, we wanted to lead it to true improvement. 8. Once more, I should say that our system was very democratic, from the beginning. I remember the day when it was discussed and thought out. Everything hinged on the problem of who would nominate. Thus the idea arose that the people should nominate, that the residents of each district should meet and propose and nominate without the intervention of the party, that it should not be the party that nominated. Because we had a single party. If the party nominated, it would serve to strengthen the reactionary factions against the historical idea of a single party in our country. Because the republic arose, or at least was born, out of the last war for independence, with one party. Parties did not exist. Unfortunately, factions formed during our first war for independence. But there was a single force. A multiparty system did not exist, nor did it exist during our second war for independence. The multiparty system was introduced as an instrument of division and disintegration of our society and for imperialism in our country. 9. Those were the methods, and that was what they introduced. Starting with that, well, they disbanded everything. They disbanded the Marti party. They disbanded the liberating army. They left us with nothing; we were totally defenseless. We did not have a party or an army, which were precisely the two things which did not happen at the triumph of the Revolution in 1959. We were not left unprotected or defenseless. We were left with one party and one army. We cannot say exactly that we had only one party. Rather, we could say we were left with the remnants of a multiparty system, of several parties. We had one army and a movement that had played a primary role in that struggle, a unitary movement, not a sectarian movement. It was a movement that always tried to absorb, join others to it, and unite. 10. But we had the privilege in the initial period of the Revolution of again having the possibility of having a single party to guide the people in the Revolution. That is how, through persuasion, the uniting of the different revolutionary forces into a single party happened. This happened almost from the beginning, because from the beginning there was coordination among the different revolutionary forces. The 26 July Movement played a very important role, precisely because of its nonsectarian nature, because of the nonsectarian spirit that prevailed among its leaders. Although to tell the truth, there was also sectarianism in our ranks. We had to struggle a lot, and explain the tendency for division between those from the plains and those from the mountains, the underground struggle and the guerrilla struggle, some factions with political ideas and other factions with different ideas. But everything was gradually resolved. It was mainly resolved through persuasion. 11. Thus, we succeeded in uniting all the political forces into what were called the integrated revolutionary organizations, then the party, until we had what we have today. We have returned to what had been the country's history, what Marti advocated before beginning the last war for independence. If we had a single party, there was a very serious problem, a dialectical problem, to be resolved. That was the issue of nomination. This argument could be used by the enemies of the idea of a single party. So we said: No, the party will not nominate. The people will nominate. 12. That is how the districts, the assemblies in the districts, the proposals and elections, arose. Who can deny this? There was some intervention by the party sometimes, but this intervention did not occur by violating a principle, but rather because there was a need for the president of the people's government to be elected as a delegate. So there was some promotion of cadres, some promotion of some comrade of whom it was thought that he could be the president of the people's government. This gave rise to some participation by the party. But then in the second....[pauses] In the last congress, we analyzed how to improve the people's government. We also discussed some ideas, whether the president had to be a delegate, whether we had to show that the practice of being a delegate and the president had some drawbacks and resulted in some instability. 13. We also discussed a lot whether they should have two-and-a-half-year terms, or whether the delegates should have five-year terms. I confess to you that I still have doubts about this. We had reached the conclusion in the commissions, in the preparatory commission, that they should have two-and-a-half-year terms. There are arguments pro and con. But stability had a lot to do with this. They told us that many delegates move house and then they are no longer delegates. So we came to the conclusion that the provincial delegates should have five-year terms, and that the two-and-a-half-year terms for the municipal delegates, the district delegates, should continue. But the district delegates were the ones who then elected the provincial delegates, who later elected the deputies to the National Assembly [ANPP]. 14. This is democratic. No one can deny that at all. So our system was very democratic, and it was already the most democratic, because the people nominated and elected. It was just that they nominated and elected directly at the base level. But they did not elect directly on the intermediate levels; that is, the provincial assemblies and the ANPP. That is extremely important, because the ANPP is the highest body of state government. Our step forward and our challenge was to establish the direct election of the delegates to the provincial assemblies and the deputies to the ANPP. That is our great step forward and our great challenge. 15. This task was not at all easy, because we had to solve many practical problems: what it would be like, how to campaign, if it would introduce politicking into our country again, introduce division between the candidates, war between the candidates, competition for votes, those historical publicity methods we know of, which are repugnant and disgusting. They fill the walls, posts, and buildings with placards, banners, and posters. It is ridiculous propaganda, in a contest of every man for himself, in a war. We asked ourselves: How can we have direct elections without all those drawbacks of politicking and all those disgraceful things the old system entailed? How can we maintain the principle that the people nominate and the people elect? 16. The principle that the people nominate and elect is what puts us in first place among the democratic countries of the world. Because before, a group of people nominated and even elected. There is a system, one of the most common, in which each party by itself picks the candidates. Then, the different parties run in the elections, and they vote. Sometimes they vote for all the candidates; this business of voting for all the candidates is nothing new. They have one column. They must elect 20 deputies, and they have 20 names. So they vote at the top for the 20 deputies. But who gets elected? The ones they have put as number one, number two, and number three, and no one else. All the others are filler candidates. 17. What is really more ugly or detestable than a filler candidate? He works and seeks votes so that the one they put as number one will be elected, because it is the party that gives the ranking, and puts them there as number one or two. They calculate more or less how many votes they are going to get. They put all the others to work for the number one, or number two, depending on the share of votes they get. Some get two elected, others get three, and others get more. Sometimes there is a large number of parties, and I do not know how they fit on the ballots. 18. Besides, this system divides society. It atomizes it. The ideal society for exploitation is a divided society, an atomized society. The ideal society for imperialism is an atomized society, a divided society. Because the nation's strength is divided up. The nation's forces are at war against each other. They are not at the service of the nation, but rather at the service of party interests, and at the service of imperialist domination. This is why imperialism tries so hard to establish this system in all countries, and why these countries are terribly weak, incredibly weak, and our country is tremendously strong, incredibly strong. 19. Our country is showing this in this special period, and how! Who would have been able to resist with another system what we are resisting? But how could we maintain the principle that the people elect and the people nominate, and avoid politicking, avoid war, avoid competition for votes? I think that the best thing about our result is having succeeded in maintaining all these principles without any of the drawbacks we feared. 20. But the principle could not be so easy or simple. This principle cannot be easily applied in just any country. To apply this principle, a country must first of all have carried out a very profound revolution. The exploitation of man by man would have to have disappeared. The exploitation of some classes of the people by some privileged minorities would have to have disappeared. Without a system of social justice like that in our country, without a system of equality like that in our country, it would be absolutely impossible to apply this system. 21. But it did have drawbacks, I repeat once again. First, we have to know how to vote, understand the change, understand the new concepts, the new principle being applied. That is why we wanted to maintain....[pauses] How many were needed? If 589 candidates were needed, then we would have 589 candidates. That is what the ANPP needed. If we needed 1,190 provincial delegates, then we would have 1,190 provincial delegates. This prevented competition, because if you put up 2,000 to contest 1,190 posts, a general war will break out. If you put up 1,000 for the 589 seats, a general war will break out. We had to prevent a general war, and at the same time have democratic, absolutely democratic, elections. 22. That is why we established the principle that if....[pauses] Well, the citizens have as many votes as there are candidates. They do not have a single vote; they have more than one. If there are seven candidates on the two ballots, the citizens have seven votes. Nothing is being taken away from the citizens; they are being given more votes. 23. So they do not have the dilemma of asking themselves: If there are two, three, or four very good comrades, why should I choose between them? If all are good people, they do not have to ask themselves why they would exclude this one or that one, because this other one has such a good resume, or has merits, or is young and in the future may be an asset to the country, etc. The citizens have more rights, more options, but they are their options. Nothing is being taken away from anyone; more is being given. They are given more rights, more votes. 24. Now, of course, the candidate has to get more than half the votes. That is the great requirement, getting more than half the votes. This requirement to get more than half the votes, which is absolutely democratic, is what complicates the electoral system. This is what could give rise to trouble, problems, injustices, inequalities, and everything. These would be inequalities of another kind, not the inequalities of capitalism, where the candidates have to be rich. What factory worker would think of running or being nominated? What schoolteacher? What hospital doctor? In the small towns where there were so few doctors, the doctor might have been like a king, and have been nominated to be a city councilman or mayor. But that was because there was one doctor. But we have tens of thousands of doctors, and more all the time. 25. We have hundreds of thousands of professionals. Before, they would sometimes look for a professional to run, because they needed to have a professional who had funds, who had money, to do the campaigning. But the candidates were mainly the rich, the landowners, the sugar mill owners, the bankers, the (?landlords), the owners of the big businesses, those who could pay for the election campaign, or those who could find candidates from their class, representatives, to make them senators so they would represent that class's interests. 26. An ordinary, humble person could not even dream of running. There might have been a small leftist party without funds, with 20 legal restrictions, that would run against the [words indistinct] and get one or two candidates elected, not to change the country through those infernal electoral mechanisms thought up to maintain the system of exploitation. The rich had money for radio and television programs, press, etc. 27. I lived through some of that experience, and I had nothing of that. I had no money, I had nothing, but I had to invent things. I cannot forget the work I had to do personally with a group of comrades to carry out clean politics in the midst of all that. It was impossible. And it was to get votes, to get votes. [repeats] But fortunately I had the idea about persuasion from the beginning. But that was very exceptional. That did not occur. The norm was the other thing. The norm was totally different. Even the best parties, the populist parties, immediately fell into the hands of the electoral machines. Senator So-and-So was a wealthy landowner. He was the party chief in a province, the chief of the populist party. I do not want to name names. The other extremely rich man was the party chief in another province. Each one had his electoral machine. 28. Under those conditions, it was terribly difficult to gain any ground. I participated, I began to participate, but with revolutionary intentions. Do not imagine that I thought it was any use at all for doing a revolution or changing the country. I was trying to reach certain points from which to develop a revolutionary strategy, by beginning to propose revolutionary laws. Because I already had the Moncada program in mind, when I was participating in one of those campaigns I am talking about. I was thinking about proposing laws in that congress, where they would never ratify them. But it was to have a banner under which to proclaim the need for a revolutionary struggle, an armed revolutionary struggle to carry out the Revolution. [applause] 29. That was one part, one stage, to be able to publicize all those ideas, and to be able to present that whole revolutionary program as draft laws. With that society, it was very clear to me that it could not be changed except with a revolution. But what would happen now, with our new concepts and our way of electing the deputies and delegates directly-a clean, healthy way-if we were not aware of certain dangers? If we were not aware of certain inequalities? Because other inequalities would arise, not between rich and poor, but between a very well-known person and a person who is not well known. So we must add, as a great privilege and advantage of our system, the fact that almost half of the ANPP deputies have to be base-level deputies. No other country in the world has that. That is another thing that is sui generis about Cuba. 30. In what other country in the world is a city council member, which we can say is the equivalent of a district delegate, a member of the chamber of deputies, the legislature, or the senate? In what country in the world is the mayor of a small municipality, which more or less is the equivalent of our president of the people's government-although the president of the our people's government has more authority, that is something else, but in order at least to establish a comparison-a member of the legislature or the senate? In no other country do the local cadres or officials have the possibility of becoming members of the senate or the legislature. 31. In Cuba, almost half are base-level delegates. Another number is made up of provincial-level figures, as I explained recently. A minimal number, perhaps 20 percent, approximately 20 percent, are national-level figures. In other words, the vast majority of our legislature is of popular origin. However, they have to obtain more than half of the valid votes. Many of them, as we have explained several times before, are well known at the district level. With the creation of the people's councils, which has been a great development and a truly revolutionary change in the process of improving the people's governments, we already have better known cadres at the municipal level because they are elected by five, seven, eight, 10, 12, or even up to 15 districts. They are better known, but only in their districts. 32. If we want an example, such as the case of District No. 7, which nominated us, it is a large district with over 50,000 people. It has rural and urban regions, the region of Boniato is here, the region of Cobre, Hongolosongo, and all those districts there, the Jose Marti mini-district, here in the city. The residents of Boniato do not work with those from Cobre. They are not known in Cobre. They do not work with the mini-district residents. They are not known there. This has created a great problem of differences in popularity between the different candidates. We were not going to begin to fill the cities with posters in several days in order to increase the popularity of our candidates. 33. We should not have to advertise in the newspapers, because we only have enough paper to print newspapers once a week. Now, they can appear in television ads but nothing else: Vote for So-and-So, he is a good person. Television time has also been reduced. There is a lot less of it. There was no way, there could not be any way, within our concept, to make those people, who were presidents of people's councils or districts delegates, who were nominated as candidates to the provincial assemblies or candidates for deputy to the ANPP, into popular people. This is a big disadvantage, which we are running up against in practice, in real life. 34. But, of course, fortunately, there was a solution for this, in the principle that the people nominate and the people elect. Because who nominated these candidates? The party? No, it was not the party that nominated these candidates. These candidates were nominated by the municipal assemblies, which were directly elected by the people. These assemblies are made up of delegates nominated directly by the people and elected directly by the people. It is just that earlier they used to elect the delegates and the deputies to the ANPP. Now they were not going to elect them; now they are going to nominate them. 35. Who proposed the candidates? Of course, they would not be proposed by the same assembly. The municipal assemblies could not have any idea of national problems. They could not have the complete and absolute function of proposing and nominating the candidates. They did not have all the information to do so. They could run the risk of negative tendencies, like the tendency to nominating everyone from the municipality as a delegate or deputy. It was very important to find the method for proposing candidates. 36. Before, the candidacy commissions were chaired by the party. Now the candidacy commissions are not chaired by the party. This was another daring, courageous step showing faith in the people. The candidacy commissions were chaired by the Cuban Workers Federation [CTC]. Because, if we are a socialist state and a state of workers and farmers-and today we are a state of revolutionary people-what better thing could we do, through our congress and constitution, through the Constitution of the Republic, than to assign the CTC this task of chairing the candidacy commissions and fill them with the mass organizations? More than 90 percent of our population belong to these mass organizations. And our population, through their mass organizations, formed into candidacy commissions, proposed the candidates through a rigorous selection process and constant consultations of all kinds to propose the candidates for consideration by the municipal assemblies. 37. We completely saved the principle that the people do the nominating and the electing. Where else in the world does a similar process exist? Where else in the world is anyone asked who is going to be a candidate? In this way, we have implemented a wonderful procedure which we must continue to improve, which we must continue to enrich with experience. It has allowed us to carry out some very important steps, and to have considerably moved this process forward. The fundamental part of the process-24 February-is still to come. 38. We have chosen an unobjectionable process: to select the lists of candidates to be proposed and to approve the lists of candidates. If the appropriate lists are not made, the assemblies will not approve them. They must pass two tests: The assemblies must accept them, and in addition, the people must accept them. This process will work better to the degree that the selection process is better and to the degree that the work of the candidacy commissions is perfect or almost perfect, because of all the steps that must be taken, all the approvals that must be obtained in the assemblies and the candidacy commissions themselves. 39. The candidacy commissions have worked feverishly in a very short time. They made a colossal effort to present us with work that we could call perfect. No, it would not be fair to call their work perfect. But it is very fair to say that they made the maximum effort to do the best work, to do perfect work. I am sure that at some future time they will do better, because they will have more time. We have been very pressed for time because the terms of the ANPP and the people's councils had already ended. They had been extended, and we had to hold elections in the midst of the special period. 40. I think we are the only country in world, living in almost war- time conditions, with the imperialist embargo and the consequences of the collapse of the socialist bloc, that would dare to hold these kinds of elections in these conditions. I think it is tremendous evidence of the courage of our Revolution and our people. Nevertheless, we are doing it. These elections had to be held, not only in the midst of the special period but in the midst of the sugar harvest, which with the difficulties brought by the special period has become a really tough and difficult task; in the midst of the cold-season planting and harvesting of tubers and vegetables; in the midst of the tobacco planting and harvesting; and of an infinite number of all kinds of activities in which we are involved. 41. We are carrying out this process, and it has been held in a minimum length of time. What has resulted from the effort these candidacy commissions have made is incredible, but when we have more time, as I have said, when we are not as rushed as we are now, the effort and results will undoubtedly be much better, and we will have much more experience. 42. Now, what was a principle that prevailed in the work of the candidacy commissions? Consultation, constant consultation, incessant consultation. It was necessary to find out what was thought, not by the delegates already elected but by the candidates for delegate before they were elected. They began to ask questions. They asked the fundamental actors and sectors of the country's economy. They consulted with the work centers and consulted with everyone. Approximately 1.5 million consultations were held to form a pool of tens of thousands of candidates, in order to present finally 190 candidates to the provincial assemblies and 589 candidates to the ANPP. 43. But there was the tremendous requirement of obtaining more than half of the votes. Do you think this is easy? How can it be easy? There we ran into one of the biggest obstacles, because a tendency toward preciosity, excessive selectivity, developed. Everyone was looking for the candidate they knew, whom they had seen face to face, greeted, spoken with, had an opinion about, or who was known through the mass media and whom they knew very well. They were going to choose. Votes were going to be wasted, to be lost. The chances of electing those humble men and women of the people, chosen from the factories, schools, hospitals, and communities to represent their people in the provincial assemblies or the ANPP, were going to decrease. 44. The best part of our system would be threatened. That is why the candidacy commissions' work was so important, because confidence in that work had to be created. Confidence in the quality of the nominated persons had to be created. Without this confidence, it is not possible to talk about a united vote. 45. It is true there are resumes, but the resumes are not all the same. That is why we have said that some differences were erased and other differences arose. Now the differences between the rich and poor were going to be replaced by the differences between those who have a long revolutionary history and those who have a brief revolutionary history, between someone who has 50 years of service to the Revolution and someone who has five years of service to the Revolution and therefore cannot have as good a resume as someone else. Differences had to arise. 46. Nevertheless, our provincial assemblies and the ANPP could not select men with 50 years of revolutionary service and super-resumes. They had to select young people, yes, many young people, and they had to choose students so that they could begin to receive education and training. Not just any students, but very outstanding students, very well known and with a lot of prestige among their comrades, students in the Federation of Secondary School Students [FEEM] and the Federation of University Students [FEU]. They had to select innovators, scientists, and talented people, people with a lot of merit and ability but not well known, because they have worked hard and they are not in the newspaper every day, or they have never been in the newspaper. They are not known. 47. Of course, they may have excellent resumes. They may have done this or that, made these contributions or done those things. But our representative institutions have to represent the people, the different sectors of the people, the different forces of the people. They must represent the different ages, some older, some middle- aged. They must represent young people. Because this is a chain, a ladder, which begins on one rung and goes up to the last rung. It is a lengthy ladder, which the comrades must climb, acquiring more and more experience to serve the Revolution, to serve their nation. 48. The candidates were not going to be all equally well known, and their resumes were not going to be the same. But even a good resume was not enough. There are people who do not read the resumes. There are people who do not read the newspapers, or if they read the newspapers they look for the political section, or the sports section, or the Americas section, or the comics, or whatever, or they look for cultural things or entertainment things, etc. If all the resumes were published in all the papers, no one could be sure that every citizen had read the resumes. There are many people who do not have time to listen to the radio, so not even reading the resumes on the radio would do, or using television. 49. The resumes are very important, but they do not ensure everything. The resumes do not ensure that the voters know the deputies or have seen them some time. They have to go exclusively by the resumes. If they start to pick and choose, many of these comrades with excellent resumes might not be elected, and we would be wasting votes. We would be adding to the votes, or the nonvotes, of the counterrevolutionaries. Because disaffection with the Revolution is expressed that way: I will not vote for that guy, because he is an outstanding cadre of the Revolution, etc. 50. Some would do this for one reason, others for other reasons. There would be disadvantages for the candidates, but the popular candidates were not concerned. The popular, more well-known candidates would normally have the greatest chances of being elected. The less well-known candidates would have fewer chances. We would be forced to hold many repeat elections. Would we find more well-known candidates? More deserving candidates? We could find equally deserving candidates, but it would be unlikely that we could find more deserving candidates. It would be impossible, or almost impossible, that they would be better known. 51. The candidacy commissions launched in their first wave, we could say, in their first string, in their vanguard group, those they thought were best qualified to hold these posts. Thus this-the selection system, the principle that the people do the nominating and electing, the work by the candidacy commissions, the excellent work by the candidacy commissions, although we must always admit that there were mistakes, as exceptions, the work by the municipal assemblies which approved those candidates, and through a rigorous consultation process-is what gives us the basis for bringing up the issue of a united vote. 52. This is what gives us the basis for bringing up the idea that the vote should not be scattered or divided. The vote should be concentrated, united, and should support the people's candidates and elect the people's candidates. It is precisely how things have been done, the principles that have been applied, that gives all the moral force and the entire basis for a united vote. The people have understood this. 53. Now imagine, comrades....[rephrases] and I will repeat the example of District No. 7, and there are many like it. It is a very large municipality. Any of those four comrades who are running for delegate to the provincial assembly has to get around 20,000 votes. Can you imagine a comrade from the ranks of the Revolution, and we are demanding that he get 20,000 votes to be elected? I was talking in the mini-district and I cited the example that if right then those who were there were asked to count to 20,000, I could walk all around Havana, come back after an hour, and they would not yet have finished counting to 20,000. 54. We are demanding that comrades who do not appear in the newspapers every day get 20,000 votes. These are comrades who have worked modestly, humbly, selflessly, for many years, and they are not well known. How can they get 20,000 votes, if the patriotic, revolutionary vote does not support them, and does not support them in a concentrated and united way? We could not elect them. Our excellent system, which has such a solid moral foundation, would fail because we had not understood that indulging in preciosity and choosing one by one and voting only for the ones we know would mean taking votes away from those comrades, refusing our votes to those wonderful comrades. 55. It would be truly sad and regrettable. What incentive would there be for effort? What incentive would there be for a scientist? What incentive would there be for an innovator? What incentive would there be for the cadres, so many good and brilliant cadres that we have? What incentive would there be for their work if they could not be elected? What kind of quality would our ANPP or our provincial assemblies have? What kind of democratic spirit would they have if the most modest but highly qualified ordinary men and women could not be elected? If the young people could not be elected? If the students of the FEEM or the FEU could not be elected? If many talented people in our country could not be elected? 56. That would be an inequality, from any point of view. It would be an injustice, from any point of view. That is why the idea of a united vote in favor of the people's candidates has so much power. That is why the revolutionary, patriotic vote should not be divided or scattered. Fortunately, we have been able to observe during this tour a very high level of understanding of these ideas and concepts. We can say that these are ideas and concepts of the masses, wherever we have gone in Santiago de Cuba. We should not be surprised, although it is surprising. We should not be amazed, although it may seem amazing, because what people are we working with? 57. I am not thinking only of their patriotic, revolutionary virtues, but their level of education and knowledge. I realized this today, there in the mini-district, when Comrade Lazo spoke and asked them about the ballots, how many ballots there would be, what color, what one was for and what the other was for. When I heard the people's answers, I realized that really if instead of two ballots of two colors, there were 20 ballots of 20 different colors, our people would be able to figure it out and vote correctly. [applause] 58. Not just two ballots but 20, because this nation is not the same nation as it was yesterday. This is a new nation. We remember with affection the old nation, which stood by us at the beginning of the Revolution and in the Revolution's struggle. But when the Revolution ended and we met with the masses, were they the same masses as today? Were they not illiterate masses, the majority, or a large number, a high percentage, if not the majority? They were masses of people who had first-, second-, and third-grade educations. That was the vast majority. What could one have learned in two or three years in those public schools that existed in our country, without books, papers, or pencils and often without teachers? 59. If the vast majority was not illiterate, the vast majority of our nation was semi-illiterate. That is the harsh, cruel truth, but it is the truth. That is not the truth of today. I should say that today we can see something else. Throughout these years, we have met so many times with the masses. We see an energy, vigor, and health which could not be seen in those times. We see learning, knowledge, education which could not be seen in those times. We see clear, very clear thinking, which could not be seen in those times. In those times, there was faith in men. That is true. That factor of faith in men played a very important role at that time. 60. But now there are more important factors than men, and there is a different faith that we observe. This is faith in ideas, faith in justice, faith in the values of man. That is what has replaced all kinds of political bossism and personalism, cults of personality, etc., which have not been a practice here, as you well know. But faith in men played a very important role. Today faith in men has been replaced by faith in ideas. That is one of the most impressive changes I have observed in our nation. We should feel really proud of this, because we see these values prevailing today. We see these ideas prevailing today. This is what gives the Revolution tremendous strength at this time. This explains the reactions of the people, and I have seen reactions in these days everywhere, in the mountains of Boniato and in Hongolosongo and Cobre. What we saw in Cobre was impressive, incredible. 61. It reminded me of the initial days of the Revolution, and I saw that there was more joy among the people of Cobre-which now has 18,000 inhabitants-than there was among the people of Cobres on the day the Revolution triumphed. That says a lot, really. Were they from the generation of the time when we were in the Sierra Maestra? No, many who were young people during our time in the Sierra are now grandmothers, and they talked to me and said: We grandmothers also have to be organized. I told them that the grandmothers are organized everywhere. They are in the Federation of Cuban Women, the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution. No one would be able to live in this country without the grandmothers. But the grandmothers were there, with their daughters, and the sons and daughters of the daughters of the grandmothers, and they had the enthusiasm that reminded me of the enthusiasm of the initial days of the Revolution. 62. How could that be explained, in the midst of the problems, in the midst of the tremendous difficulties we have and we know of? How could that patriotic fervor, that revolutionary fervor, that political awareness be explained? How could it be explained except through those ideas and values I am talking about? That made me reflect and think and remember what we were and what we are, and how people know what we were and what we are. Not only the grandmothers but the children of the grandmothers, and the children of the children of the grandmothers, know this. 63. The Pioneers know this. The grandchildren know this, and even the great-grandchildren are beginning to learn this, because many of the school-age children there were great-grandchildren. Those children were very impressive. They gave us an idea of what our schools are like. Today one of them spoke here at a school, by coincidence. I asked him a question, he answered, and I continued to ask him questions. I am still impressed with the things that child said. He is here, he was invited, but we do not want to ask him to speak because he already spoke a lot. [laughter] But I saw in that child the ability of an ANPP deputy. You may say that I am exaggerating. The child is in fifth grade, but it is unlikely that a person that age, in such a spontaneous way, would be able to give the answers that child gave, with the explanations he gave, and that showed us what our schools are like. 64. So our people, young and old, teenager and child, know what the past was like and what the present is like. The enemy's hope is that our great material difficulties will cause our people to weaken and kneel down. That is imperialism's dream. But they underestimate the powerful moral values, the powerful intellectual values, and the powerful ideas our people have now. I said to myself: Well, it is natural that someone who experienced slavery would never want to go back to being a slave. Someone who knew that sexual or racial discrimination existed, someone who knew that discrimination existed against the poor....[changes thought] which was the vast majority of the people, and because they were poor they were discriminated against, and more than discriminated against, held in contempt and disregarded, like dogs, because even a dog was better cared for by those bourgeois people than a worker or a human being was. 65. As I was saying today to a group of compatriots, they did not cry if a man showed up dead in the street, of illness or hunger, but they cried when their dogs died. I swear to you that I have nothing against dogs. [laughter] They are noble animals. They are good friends to man, but those gentlemen were incapable of feeling compassion for their brothers, for human beings, men. They were more capable of feeling compassion for animals than for people. 66. Someone who has experienced dignity, someone who has experienced freedom, someone who has experienced honor, someone who has experienced equality, someone who has experienced social justice-even though they did not live in that time-does not resign himself and will never resign himself to living without them. [applause] No matter what the price. We are paying a high price today, in the midst of the embargo and after the inglorious collapse of the socialist bloc. Since the embargo has been intensified to try to make us surrender out of hunger and disease, we have been paying a high price for those values. 67. But other generations of Cubans paid an even higher price. Our Mambises paid it throughout the Ten Years' War, that war in which Santiago de Cuba and the eastern provinces participated so much. They went 10 years without a light bulb, most times without a candle, without a scalpel, without medical equipment, without a hospital, without a school, without anything, 10 years in the hills, defending what we are today, defending what we have achieved today. 68. When some became discouraged, when some became demoralized, and the pacts with the enemy began, and some began to speak of peace without independence, Maceo and Baragua arose as an immortal example of heroism and dignity. [applause] Not 20 years passed, and the Cubans took to the hills again. Then they had to endure even greater suffering, and [Spanish General Valeriano] Weyler's merciless concentration plan. That was the price our people had to pay, when they had not yet obtained their independence. Then what happened? The Yankees came and took over everything, and did not even let the Mambises enter the cities. They disbanded the liberating army and destroyed Marti's party. They subjected us to neocolonialism for almost 60 years. 69. That period brought a lot of suffering to our people, and that is what the result of those struggles had become. But we have experienced the result of an independent, victorious nation, a victorious revolution that has done so many things in so few years, that has transformed the country in so few years, that has transformed consciences, that has transformed the people, in so few years. So that out of an illiterate nation there is now a nation that has tens of thousands of scientists, that is a medical power, a scientific power, and-allow me to add-a power in heroism, courage, dignity, and revolutionary awareness. [applause, chanting] 70. We can call ourselves a revolutionary power, because we have known how to resist and been able to resist when others have surrendered, when others have yielded. We have found enough courage to confront imperialism on our own and say: Here we are, ready to struggle, ready to continue to resist for however long it is necessary, at whatever price necessary. We have become an example to the world. That is the importance, value, and strength ideas have. 71. The enemy must be sent this message of a united people, not a wrong message. A wrong message may be sent by those who share the enemy's soul, or have the enemy in their soul, and follow the enemy's instructions and defend the enemy's interests. They may send all kinds of wrong messages, but we patriots, revolutionaries, men and women of honor and dignity have to send a very clear message to the enemy about our unity, strength, and determination. 72. Now that I am talking about the enemy, we should not confuse the incorrigible, incurable, recalcitrant person who has an irreversible ideological disease, with a confused, mistaken, bitter person who does not understand. We must do tremendous work with the latter, and that is the work that I was talking about, house by house, man by man and woman by woman. This is very important. But it is important to talk even with the enemy to show him the weakness of his reasoning, to show him the injustice of his positions, to show him his error in having contempt for the nation, handing over the nation, selling out the nation, to show him the error involved in selling his soul to the devil. 73. We should knock on every door and every heart, wherever there may be a fiber, a small fiber, of patriotism, a small fiber of solidarity, a small fiber of humanity. In this kind of political struggle, we must be politicians, and we must always be politicians. The Revolution has always been political, because those who left the Revolution did not do so because we expelled them but because they wanted to leave the Revolution. In our country, since 1 January everyone had an opportunity and chance to be a revolutionary. The Revolution did not reject anyone. That is why it is necessary to insist that we must wage the political battle, what Lazo called quality. We must not think only about numbers. 74. That is why we said recently that everyone has to teach everyone to vote. It is not a matter of students teaching students to vote, but of teaching everyone. Women must not just teach women to vote, but everyone. The members of the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution must teach everyone to vote. The Pioneers also have to teach people to vote, because they know how to vote. Everyone has to teach everyone to vote. Everyone has to knock on every door. Everyone has to reach every heart. Because the values we are defending are very sacred, very noble, and very powerful. These are the values of the nation, the Revolution, and socialism. They are the values of justice, equality, dignity, and the honor of man. These values have great strength. 75. As I was saying to some compatriots from Santiago, no one betrays his brother. No one betrays his mother or his father. No one betrays his children under any circumstances, or relinquishes them, no matter how great the sacrifices. This is how we must view the nation. This is how we must view justice. This is how we must view freedom. We must be able to say that no true Cuban betrays his mother which is the nation. [applause] No true Cuban betrays his brother, which is the feeling of solidarity. No true Cuban betrays his children, which are freedom, dignity, honor, equality, and justice. These are the values that we revolutionaries defend. [applause] 76. These are the values so many generations of Cubans have fought for, and for which so many Cubans have sacrificed themselves. We should know how to be worthy descendants of them. These are the values that make us strong. These are the values that make us invincible. We must defend the fatherland. We must defend the nation. It cost a lot of work and blood to keep the empire from swallowing us up. Now without the socialist bloc, now when that empire has hegemony over the world, we have to show it that there is a nation with too much decency, dignity, spirit, and awareness, and too many revolutionary ideas to be swallowed up, to be made to surrender, to be made to kneel down. 77. On this 24 February, which marks the 98th anniversary-almost the centennial-of the start of our second war for independence, we will have the honor of waging this battle. This will be very important, since we are going to establish the people's government for the special period. The provincial people's governments, the ANPP, the highest bodies of the Cuban state, will govern the country during the special period. As we fulfill this basic duty, as we wage this battle, we will be taking a very important step toward the future. We will be taking a very important step in strengthening our Revolution to endure today's trials and even worse trials if necessary. [applause] 78. If I have always had faith in our people, today I can say that I have more faith than ever [applause] in the people throughout Cuba and everywhere, but especially in the people of Santiago de Cuba and the eastern provinces. [applause, chanting] Our struggles began here, from the War of 1868 to Moncada. We continued them here. We attained victory here. We took important and decisive steps here to consolidate it. That is why to the rest of our compatriots we can say, as a message of encouragement, enthusiasm, and struggle, because they will be capable of doing what we do, we can say to them that in Santiago and the eastern provinces, we have and will have invincible bastions of the Revolution. 79. Socialism or death, fatherland or death, we will win! [applause] -END-