FBIS-LAT-93-212
Daily Report
4 Nov 1993
CARIBBEAN
Cuba
Castro Addresses Microbiology Congress
PA0411043193 Havana Radio Rebelde Network Spanish 2320 GMT
30 Oct 93
PA0411043193
Havana Radio Rebelde Network Spanish 2320 GMT
30 Oct 93
BFN
[Speech by Fidel Castro at the Fourth Microbiology and
Parasitology Congress held at the Convention Palace in Havana on
29 October -- recorded]
[Text] A program had been previously scheduled in which
[words indistinct] were to give a speech. I knew that [words
indistinct] was to speak and that [words indistinct] had many
things to say. He had many things to say but in a few words.
It had been announced that Dr. Carlyle -- I call him Carlyle,
because that is how we pronounce it in Spanish [Castro chuckles]
-- was going to give a conference. How long was the conference
to last? Well, approximately 40 minutes. When we arrived here,
we learned that Carlyle had [word indistinct] (?sore throat).
Before it was called [words indistinct] but now it is called
[words indistinct] because nothing can be heard [Castro
chuckles] [words indistinct].
It appears that in honor of the inauguration of this
Institution, he was received here at least with a cold. It has
not been investigated yet if he has a virus or a bacteria. The
fact of the matter is that he could barely speak. I do not know
how he managed, because he gave his speech and he spoke very
well and with a great deal of sensibility which merits double
congratulations. At the end he said that [name indistinct] was
to give a speech. I was told that the last time [name
indistinct] had given a speech was at a graduation ceremony, and
they said it was long. This time he was brief and he spoke
eloquently, there was even time left. We have not been here for
an hour yet. It was then my turn to [word indistinct] come up
to the podium.
A sort of conditional reflex has been created. This has
nothing to do with parasitology or with microbiology, nor with
tropical medicine. It has to do with studies recently carried
out by a Russian scientist -- Russian, Soviet, I do not know
what he is now. I am not well informed of his nationality nor
where he was born. I do not know if he was born in Belarus, in
the Ukraine, or in [word indistinct]; before he was a Soviet
citizen. Now he is Russian, is that right? I think he studied
the aspect of conditional reflexes. Well, the truth is that I am
the one that has the reflexes here, it is not the public.
Rather, one can say that I provoke reflexes. When they see me
[words indistinct] as if it is mandatory, they demand that I be
present. [Words indistinct] what happened to Carlyle. Carlyle
had no voice but he had a speech prepared. I can speak but I
have no speech prepared. [Castro shuffles papers]
I came here to greet you all, in the first place, and to
express my satisfaction for your presence. There is a large
attendance of doctors, Cuban experts. There is also a very
large attendance -- number not yet estimated -- of experts from
abroad. I say from abroad so as to not call them foreign
because in the end we all belong to the same family. There is
nothing strange or foreign among those who are visiting us here.
[applause]
I have not had the opportunity to participate in the
debates,
the workshops, the seminars -- who knows how many things have
been going on. I had even mentioned that the closing ceremony
was to be held over there [at the Institute]. I mentioned to my
dear comrades that it would probably will be held over there as
this deals with tropical medicine. But when we were on the way
they turned and I asked: Where are you going? They replied,
the closing ceremony is at the Convention Palace. Nevertheless,
I did hear that the Congress went very well. That everyone --
the Cubans as well as the foreigners -- had a good concept of
the Congress' development. Carlyle talked about the conditions
under which this Congress was held, the conditions under which
we organized this institution, [words indistinct] very difficult
conditions.
It is truly encouraging [words indistinct] for us to hold
a congress of this quality under these circumstances.
Our Tropical Medicine Institute has already received certain
international recognition. I say certain international
recognition because I do not wish to wound the modesty of the
workers at the institute. Perhaps it is more than certain
international recognition; perhaps it is great international
recognition. At least our area, the area of Latin America, has
given the institute this recognition.
We must say that the founder of the institute, the man who
conceived this necessary and important idea for our country was
Pedro Curie, Gustavo's father. The fact that Gustavo is the one
who currently heads the institute is quite symbolic; and he is
doing a splendid job. A few minutes ago he told me that present
here today is a Guatemalan professor he met when he was a child
and that he had worked with his father. It was Curie who had
the idea and who put the idea into practice. He did this with
no funding whatsoever. He did it virtually on his won. He
created the institute and got much of the material that was
needed. He succeeded in giving the institute prestige and
having tropical medicine taught at the university.
You have presented us with a diploma in recognition of our
work and support for this task. All I did was get information
about the institute and the work that Pedro Curie and a group of
scientists had done. I became aware of the importance of
tropical medicine in a country such as ours, not only because we
are a tropical country, with all the virtues and shortcomings of
a tropical country -- because heat can create problems, can it
not (Nerey) [not further identified]. Heat can be a problem
especially for the construction workers because they, as well as
the farmers, must work in very harsh weather. This is why I say
that the European farmer works in air conditioned weather. Here
we must work in 35 and sometimes 40 degree weather and relative
humidity of more than 80 percent.
Slavery originated in the tropics. The Europeans could not
work in our climate and that is why they enslaved the Indians.
In many places they exterminated the Indians. Then they went
to Africa. They brought millions of Africans here to grow sugar
cane, coffee, and other agricultural products. In other words,
these people work in a harsh climate and this harsh climate has
diseases that do not exist in mild and cold climates.
Difficulties for development in tropical climate countries
abound and not only in the field of health; however, there are
many tropical diseases. If you want to be healthy in the
tropics, then you must work hard in every field of health, in
particular the field of tropical medicine. The huge number of
diseases, parasites, [word indistinct], and other similar
problems that do not exist in mild and cold climates.
Even back in those days Cuba's international cooperation was
being developed. Our island was blocked and isolated. Not only
because of feelings, but also out of need, we were forced to
develop strong relations with the rest of the world. We
cooperated with African countries and other tropical countries.
Students came and went. There came a time when we had 25,000
students on scholarship. Almost all the tropical countries were
represented.
It was a matter of concern the fact that diseases that did
not exist here could be transmitted from other continents. The
Institute of Tropical Medicine -- that we could say was revived
-- was located temporarily in a number of houses, until adequate
installations were prepared. The Institute was requested to
carry out an extensive project in order to protect the nation
from illnesses from other continents or other nations. That
project was very important.
The project consisted of finding out what these diseases
were, what produced them, in addition to how they were
transmitted, how they were transmitted [repeats himself].
Almost all these diseases, all of them have some form of
transmission. At times it is the mosquito, at times it is the
fly, at times it is a snail, or an [word indistinct] insect. We
had to investigate whether the transmitting agents of those
diseases were in our countries. We also had to investigate how
these diseases were to be combated. That is, to protect the
nation's public health there must be an exchange. This type of
exchange of information takes place in all parts of the world.
Ever since aviation was developed, in a matter of hours any
traveler can travel to any country from any [word indistinct].
Communication has been multiplied among the diverse areas in
the world. Therefore, we saw this as a necessity given our
extremely broad relations with the rest of the world. It is
also a need for the [words indistinct] of the world to [words
indistinct].
The study of diseases unique to each climate is very
important and highly interesting for all the nations. There are
some diseases that are not exclusive to the tropics; they are of
tropical, cold, and mild climates. AIDS was mentioned here, it
affects all the nations of the world. It is still not know for
certain, nor precisely, what the origins of AIDS is. There are
diverse theories with regard to this, but its origin is still
unknown. I have even had the opportunity to learn of some
opinions linking it to biological warfare efforts. This cannot
be asserted either. It is just one of the many theories that
abound. However, it is well known that biological warfare was
the object of in-depth research and that billions [currency not
specified] were spent on it. It would not be surprising for an
epidemic such as this to have originated from one of the many
laboratories. As a result of this, it was our responsibility to
develop health research methodology not and just concentrate on
tropical disease research. We have learned a lot from some rare
diseases that have on occasions plagued plants, animals and
even.... [pauses] I believe it was [name indistinct] who said
here that the strange manner in which the hemorrhagic dengue
epidemic appeared in Cuba is still to be determined. You can
bet that so far that disease has not appeared abruptly in any
other place. Yet it appears abruptly, violently.... [pauses]
It is true that it was in part due to our own irresponsible
conduct because there had been an epidemiological carelessness
that resulted in an increment of the transmitting agent; the
well-known mosquito discovered by Finlay as the yellow fever
transmitting agent.
It is here where our carelessness lies. We allowed the Aedes
Agypti mosquito to develop even though we were not yet immersed
in the special period and we were in a better economic position.
We have been able to reduce it to minimum levels and we have to
continue to keep it within tolerable levels or in areas where we
were practically able to eradicate that mosquito.
[Words indistinct] we were quite besieged and threatened,
not
only as result of the mere casual intervention of diseases but
also because of the premeditated introduction of diseases. All
of this prompted us into taking serious steps in the health
sector as well as health research and we began to carry out all
sorts of research of every type so long as it proved useful to
our country, to our development. We decided to pay special
attention to the health sector. As a result of this decision,
we decided to provide and equip the Tropical Medicine Institute
with adequate installations and all the laboratories were [word
indistinct].
That is what we practically have today. I said
practically have today because we are still missing a few items.
In addition, the construction crew, and it is appropriate for
me to mention it, still has some details to look after and those
small details are usually the ones that take the most time. The
P-3 laboratory is still unfinished. Construction has started
but it is still unfinished and the institution will not be
complete without the P-3 laboratory. I was told that there are
still some small details in the hospital part of the project.
You are aware of what is missing, are you not? [laughter in
background] Good!
What have I done during this time period? First of all, I
endured the constant delays in the construction. When this
project was launched the construction sector had not yet
implemented the use of contingents, nor was construction being
done efficiently, and there were numerous delays in completing
the buildings. Most naturally I took upon myself the task of
trying to provide some momentum. Afterward contingents were
created, however construction progress was still slow. Now that
we are talking about our glories, it is appropriate for us also
to mention our faults. That institute was built too slowly.
There is still no completion date. I seem to recall that three
years ago they had set 26 July as the completion date. That was
more or less three or four years ago. I said to myself that no
way was this project going to be completed by 26 July.
Impossible! There is still too much to be done. To be quite
honest, I visited the construction site on numerous occasions
while they were still building. How many times? If you recall,
I visited the site approximately 20 or 25 times to.... [pauses]
I might fall short because I do not want to exaggerate. What's
that? [voice heard in the background] I am being told that I
visited the site 42 times. They were keeping count. I did it
in order to encourage them, commit then, criticizing them, and
so forth, in order for them to forge ahead. Until at last, they
have nearly completed it. [laughs] It is not the same thing to
say that they practically did not conclude it, as to say they
nearly concluded it. [laughs] A couple of details still missing
but that's all. We can practically inaugurate the building.
Objectively speaking I can really say that there are small
details still missing. I hope they don't forget now to finish
the details.
Ever since the institute started operating some time ago
without having been finished I also visited it on several
occasions. I visited the place on several occasions during the
period when the optic neuritis epidemic was taking place just to
see what they were doing and the research they were conducting.
If this diploma is being awarded for the times I visited,
suffered, and struggled for that place, then I gladly accept it.
[laughs] At any rate, my merits are quite modest in comparison
to all those people who were patient enough to work there for
practically six years. I say six years just to be conservative.
I was practically an advocate looking for state resources to
invest there because installations such as those are costly
[words indistinct].
Not only is the civil construction costly, but also the
materials, the laboratory and other equipment to be used in the
hospital, electrical generator in case of an electricity
failure, and climate control system. All that is costly and the
country has invested heavily in that institution. Those who
come to take courses at the hospital are accommodated at a small
hotel located right next to it. The hotel is now being managed
by the tourism companies but they also provide services and use
the excess labor in other things and this ease things when
having to organize events and the progress of the courses
offered at the institution.
As a result of [words indistinct] efforts with respect to
the
center, you have been quite generous in awarding me this
diploma. I dedicate it to the memory of Pedro Curie who was the
founder and driving force behind that institution. [applause]
I also dedicate it to the center's workers and Gustavo who
worked unflinchingly to establish this new center.
I believe it is already a respectable institution and one
that can be very useful to the country, the region, and other
regions in the world. As you see, the institution is located in
an area that is somewhat removed from the city or from the
center of the city. This causes problems in the current
situation, with the scarcity of fuel and transportation, and we
are looking for ways to resolve them. We are also modifying,
rebuilding, and preparing housing installations and have already
distributed a few units so that the institution's personnel can
be close at hand. I hope to have not less than 100 housing
units.
As you know, we had many foreign technicians here and they
lived near the institution; there was a neighborhood for foreign
technicians. It is very painful that the foreign technicians
have left but, well, we have received considerable training and
can already fend for ourselves in many things. In tropical
medicine, we received little or almost no help from the foreign
technicians. We can really say that our health and biology
investigations were carried out mainly -- almost 100 percent --
by Cubans. The foreign technicians worked in other areas; they
helped us in other areas.
It hurt us very much to see the foreign technicians leave.
Their departure, however, released a large number of housing
units that will now be used to house the Pedro Curie Institute
scientists. We are adapting and preparing the housing units so
that the center's staff can live closer. With the scarcity of
buses, it would be difficult for them to come to work,
approximately 15 km from the center of the city, on a bicycle
every day. We are now engaged in preparing those housing units
for the center's personnel and will continue to work to find
solutions to those problems so the institute can be complete.
Based on the experience we have picked up in other
institutions, we know the advantage of having housing units
close at hand. It eases the scientists' work very much.
There are still other things to be done but we will keep on
working. I am going to keep on trying to earn the diploma that
you have given me. The proof of the good intentions of my work
is that I have been working with more or less the same vitality
that I placed in other scientific institutions, and I will
continue to do so. Some institutions have already been
inaugurated but others are about to be inaugurated. Simply
said, we have given priority to the areas of scientific
investigation even amid the special period situation.
We are completing all the institutions in those areas and
the
ones related to the biotechnology and pharmaceutical industries
with great efforts and sacrifices. We are carrying out many
actions in those areas in western Havana. We have the Western
Havana Scientific Center, which includes a large number of
institutions, that was established to further cooperation among
them.
The latest joint effort made by the center and its
institutions was when the optic neuritis epidemic developed.
The scientists worked desperately in everything related to this
epidemic. They studied the results of investigations that could
give them insight in their search for the causes of the ailment.
They studied its characteristics, searched for therapies, and
looked for ways to implement programs. What are those programs
called? The ones in which we worked so hard? The programs on
therapeutic problems? What name was given to those programs?
[Unidentified person mumbles something] Clinical tests, you
say? Amid the epidemic, we investigated with approximately
[words indistinct] to combat the ailment. [Words indistinct]
medicines and treatment that could be more effective. We
studied the effects of applying ozone or magneto-therapy
[magnetoterapia] to the ailing. We studied vitamins to find out
which would be more effective. We checked to see what effects
would be caused with the use of Interferon, the transference
factor [factor de transferencia], and even the (Ictaglobin).
All the patients received the basic treatment; the one with
vitamins. In addition, however, many patients received other
treatments to be able to determine which was the most efficient.
As a result of this epidemic there must be tremendous
efforts and constant follow-up. There must be a follow-up to
the 50,000 cases that were diagnosed. However, it should be
taken into account that in these cases there is a tendency for
excessive diagnosis [hyperdiagnosticos]. According to the most
conservative estimates, no less than 35,000 people were affected
by the disease. A huge majority recovered completely. A small
group, a few hundred suffered relapses. Their health improved,
but their recovery was not complete. All diagnosed cases are
being followed up.
Those cases that were recorded more than a year ago when we
did not have much experience are receiving treatment. We even
resorted to the sulfurous water because there were three
theories related to the use of this treatment. I imagine that
by now they might have discussed the issue in some congress on
whether or not it was nutritive, toxic nutritive, toxic, or
viral. There were numerous contradictions that prevented us
from clearly establishing what the real causes were. A foreign
scientist said that to search for a toxin that causes an illness
is like searching for a needle in a haystack. A tremendous
amount of work was done and every scientist became involved. We
are not sure of how many hours went into this. My estimate,
based on my participation in meetings with scientists during the
epidemic, indicates that we must have surpassed 100 hours. One
hundred hours of continuous meetings since there were two weekly
meetings. In addition, there were also meetings among ourselves
as well as with foreign scientists because we opened the doors
to the international scientific community in the belief that
this type of epidemic might be of interest to other countries,
not just to us. There was strenuous work searching [word
indistinct].
The struggle against the illness served to demonstrate two
things: the scientific progress we had been able to accomplish,
and at the same time, our scientific shortcomings. In which
field were we more advanced? In which field were we less
advanced? This effort prompted us to become aware of all these
issues and to encourage the country's scientific development.
Likewise, the Pan- American Health Organization and WHO both
cooperated with us in encouraging the country's scientific
development. We also established contacts with foreign
scientists and scientific centers in order to procure their
assistance. But as for the disease we have now, the
international scientific community does not have an answer
either. It does not have a clear and categorical answer. We
must continue researching and studying.
However, in circumstances such as these where a number of
cases are recorded, there were days when more or less accurate
diagnoses were made on approximately 700 cases. It was really a
nightmare. The hospitals were overcrowded, yet research never
stopped. I know of researchers who would sleep in their labs.
They had a cot right beside their electronic microscopes and
the culture mediums they were working with. They would sleep
right in the lab while working on the epidemic related research.
[Words indistinct] it is impossible to become fully aware of
the value of these scientific institutions. This is the reason
we have given them such a priority status.
If a similar problem were to break out in any other country,
our research assistants would immediately offer their assistance
to that country. For example, when the dengue break out in
Ecuador they requested our cooperation and that of other
countries and we immediately sent it. We acquired tremendous
experience in the struggle against dengue because it was
completely banished. The last cases of dengue were
hospitalized. Not only did we struggle against the mosquito but
special measures were taken to prevent any spread until the day
when no cases were recorded. The overall measures finally
succeeded. The overall measures also succeeded in eradicating
the optic neuritis epidemic.
But that was a battle, and dengue was a big one back in
1981. That battle was much greater, and I would say more
distressing. When the dengue hit, we knew certain elements
regarding transmission and the virus. We were even able to use
interferon, which at that time we had just produced, (?to fight)
dengue. This was not the case now, since we had to investigate
along the way. We had to adopt diverse measures along the way.
It was truly distressing. I call that epidemic a nightmare.
It was at that time that we could appreciate the enormous
importance of the work by scientists, and it is related to
something as sacred as human health and human life. In this
case, it was particularly sensitive because one of its
manifestations affected eyesight. It is truly dramatic to see
thousands of people with an eye ailment that could have
consequences if they do not receive adequate treatment. This is
the motivation of the science workers, and that is the reason
for the devotion with which they work. I say that the behavior
of scientists is truly exemplary now, as we often cannot even
ensure monthly rations of gasoline to those who have cars.
There are many scientists in our country using bicycles to
move about. I would, of course, rather that they could give
[words indistinct] we are doing everything possible so that the
material conditions of researchers are good, but our resources
are limited. It is truly admirable to see a scientist on a
bicycle. Perhaps the only positive result that may come from it
is the exercise. It used to be that when many people got home
they would do deep knee bends and other sorts of exercises, and
now they do not need any kind of exercise as they do 10 km on
the bicycle going to and from work. We must have.... [pauses]
How many Cubans did you [not further identified] say were here?
About 600. Raise your hands those who use a bicycle one way or
another. See how many science and medicine workers do it.
I do not know what will happen in the future. Perhaps in the
future when they have gasoline, vehicles, everything, they will
continue to use the bicycle. A country such as the Netherlands
has 14 million bicycles. They say everybody, including
diplomats, use a bicycle in the Netherlands. We do it now as a
necessity. I hope that in the future we will do it as a sport.
People.... [pauses] That is a super-developed country. It has
a per capita income of $20,000. And yet they use the bicycle.
That habit did not exist here. I would really like to tell you
that in our country many people used the bus to go two blocks.
In sum, under these difficult conditions our scientists are
setting a true example. That is why we have such a high concept
of science workers. That is why they have acquired great
prestige in our country. We are, therefore, very happy that
this congress was successful in the opinion of all participants.
We are very happy to be able to inaugurate officially at
last
this institution or this installation, since the institution
existed and had been functioning. I would like to tell you we
will always be ready to cooperate with our Latin American
brothers and countries of the world. I ask you not to view the
institution we are inaugurating today as just a Cuban
institution, but as an institution of mankind. Thank you.
[applause]